United (H) Post Match Thread

Just a question about Sterling. Do you think it's a mental thing with him ? I'm more inclined to think it's a lack of basic technique. For an international player to not even hit the target on two one-on-ones with De Gea seems to me to be someone who lacks proper technique in striking a ball correctly. He was leaning back on both when he struck those efforts which indicates his body position in relation to the ball was wrong. We've seen him previously fluff efforts, miskick and miss apparently simple tap ins although sometimes his scuffed efforts have gone in. I thought he played well first half but his poor finishing was a prime reason United went in at HT believing they were still in the game at 0-2.
Thought the second one was behind him and had to lean back to get his foot round it. He is never gonna be a natural finisher, like several strikers in the past.
 
I remember a couple of seasons back they somehow managed to win their first 2 games, scoring 3 goals, despite only having a total of ONE shot on target in those 2 games!

Of the 3 goals one was an OG and one was a wicked deflection that was going well wide.

What other team on the planet could get 6 points despite only having one shot on target in 180 minutes of football!!

Fluky, fluky bstards.
It was a smash and grab job. It was really telling that they came out, played really well, and as soon as they got it back to 2-2, they just sat back again happy to take the draw when they could easily have scored a third because they were the better team at that point. They then got lucky with a set piece and the dodgy refereeing decisions. Yet it's reported like it was some sort of dominant performance from them in that second half. It was a typical Mourinho performance. Sit back, keep it tight, and rely on a bit of magic from his best players or a set piece to get them a lead, then park the bus, dive and time waste until the end of the game. It was nothing like Liverpool's win in which we were actually outplayed.
 
Mate, that is speculative. You or I can neither confirm or deny that would have been the outcome. Bottom line is the team fielded created so many excellent chances in the first half to have put the game to bed and once again we failed to capitalise.
agree we did more than enough to put the game to bed before ht , and Kun wasnt 100% whos to say Walker and KdB wernt in need of a rest ? , we move on the title will be won sooner or later playing the best football any of us have ever witnessed
 
Go one then I`ll bite when was the last time in your or my ( aged 62 ) experience when WE had the chance to win the league against the Rags



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No didn`t think so ..

My point is that it will come round reasonably frequently if we remain successful. Especially as TV likes having derbies (especially Etihad ones) in April - normally a bit later on in the season than this one.
 
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Sorry if this has been posted but bloody hell, we haven't been relegated or lost the title as gutting as it was. Fucking rags loving it at the minute the scum!

 
What a shit week, cant really add to whats already been said, and then i remembered this :-) chin up boys and girls

 
Shit that lad crying needs to get a grip.

I don't know why they do it or sit there after the game. Is it to get on TV? I was so pissed off I just wanted to get home, draw the curtains and hibernate for the rest of the night. If this was the last game of the season and we had lost the title and been relegated maybe.
 
We don’t get much practice at facing sustained pressure, but we should be capable of defending set pieces and crosses. United didn't have the ball enough yesterday to sustain pressure on us. They had 15 minutes where they created 3 chances.

The ref was awful, but we should have been out of sight in the first half. Then, definitely for their second and third goals they were absolutely free. No marking, no challenge and nobody trying to get in the way.

Young’s foul on Sergio was a disgrace. It was a blatant penalty and anywhere else on the pitch he’d get pulled up for it. The ref bottled that and a few other decisions. Sterling had a defender on his back in the first half and it was waved away.

But, my concern is that they had 4 chances yesterday and scored 3 goals. That’s just not good enough at any level of football. I don’t want to criticise the team, we’ve been superb this year. We capitulated yesterday because we thought the game was won. We took our foot off the gas and panicked when they scored. We didn’t try to change the intensity, we didn’t make subs until we were behind and we were very guilty of not putting the game to bed when they were on the ropes first half.
When we defend in the box we don't seem to have enough numbers in there. Against a team like Manure having their five minutes of attacking pressure, why can't we piss 'em off by creating a 'layers of players' formation that they have to get through in and around the box to go with our stunning football ? The elite teams also have back fours that bully the opposition - like Vinnie.

I've already commented elsewhere about opposing teams only needing a handful of half chances to score against us whereas we have twenty shots a game. Sugar Ray Leonard said something like 'if the first punch doesn't get you, the next one will'. After Raheem's first miss, I'm thinking 'Got to score your next chance Raheem'. He's vastly improved. However, if the elite players at Barca, Bayern, Madrid mess up a decent chance, the next one either goes in or an outstanding save has to be made.

Young is a surly and ruthless character whose actions tell you all you need to know. Surely grounds for an investigation - vis-a-vis his lunge at Sergio ?
 
Still can’t shake off the disappointment of this one , worst I have felt after a defeat since the 3-2 van Persie debacle

It’s also taken some of the gloss off the impending title win , we had it in the palm of our hands and blew it

The atmosphere at half time on the concourse was one of job done , there was no atmosphere in the ground at the start of the 2nd half , everyone assumed it was going to be a 45 minute party

We must keep up the noise in the second half on Tuesday night, it ain’t over until it’s over
 
2-0 up and cruising - we should not have lost. Nothing arrogant about that I dont think

Is it arrogance to suggest that we don’t need KDB and Sergio in our starting 11 to play Utd. Our closest rivals, 2nd in the league and on a 6 match winning streak? Yes, I think it is.
 
We need to stop being defined by a game here and a game there. For me, this season has been way in advance of anything I expected. I hoped that next season our dominance might be something approaching this one but to have it now is somewhat unexpected.
As for this week in general and yesterday in particular, apparently Pep hasn’t the first clue about football. By playing a slightly different team he would have GUARANTEED us a victory, such is the level of punditry and expertise on this forum. Not only that, but Aguero would have made the exact same runs as Sterling but would have scored (because he’s never missed a chance, ever). KDB would have tracked Pogba and stopped him scoring and Walker would have controlled that floated pass that Otamendi gave to Danilo which led to the free kick. Or maybe they wouldn’t.
I’ve also read some bollocks about if Pep had been in charge against QPR he’d have rested Aguero and 2012 wouldn’t have happened. In reality of course, he would have been able to rest him because they wouldn’t have been winning it in the last 4 minutes of the season!
Being defined by 2 games a season against Utd should be confined to history. Playing the sort of football which will endure for years to come and not be forgotten next week, finishing above them 4 times in a row and 5 seasons out of 6 should be our benchmark.
I’d happily get beat twice a season by them if we won 3/4 in a row. Whilst winning yesterday would have been fantastic, winning it in 1,2 or 3 weeks will be equally fantastic and I, for one, won’t ever tire of seeing us win stuff.
They celebrated yesterday like they’d won the title or got back into the race at least. They reminded me of us from 1980-2011 and I’ll remember that for years to come.
 

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