United thread 2013/14

[sir baconface]

Ferguson is to blame, not Moyes.

Ferguson's strength of mind, a characteristic that carried united to the title last season more than any other factor, including the signing of Van Persie, is proving their undoing this season.

Sergio's goal made him so consumed with reclaiming the title from us, that he became blinded to all other considerations and because of the power he wielded at that club he was allowed to do so without any consideration of the wider consequences of failing to rebuild as he had done so many times before. It has been apparent for some time, for example, that united's back four in particular was collectively reaching a tipping point due to nothing more than the sands of time doing their stuff.

When any Empire is built so intimately around one individual it creates the duel problem of no-one to question their bidding when they're there and no-one to adequately replace them when they're gone. united's succession planning has been truly appalling, another example of Ferguson's malign influence on the club, to contrast, in fairness with all that he delivered over an incredible 26 years.

The aura of invincibility that surrounded that club for a couple of decades has evaporated in the space of six months. The best example of this is referees, who previously, when making split second decisions would, more often than not, favour united due in no small part to the looming presence of Ferguson. Now, possibly harbouring subconscious feelings of resentment about being imposed upon by him, they seem to be going the opposite way. Once a bully loses its air of invincibility they don't tend to be treated too charitably by those who have suffered at their hands.

This really does have a decline of an Empire feel about it and the best thing is, like the decline of any other such body in human history, once those wheels start turning they are almost impossible to stop.

They aren't going away, they're too big a club for that to present a realistic prospect, but their days lording it over the rest of English football are finished and there's a certain poetic beauty about the fact that process this was accelerated by Ferguson's overwhelming desire to go out a winner.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

This! Give this guy cigar. ..

Save the cigar for Pulis and give GDM a round of applause.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

The Tom Tom Arena.Seeing as most of their 'fans' need one to find it.

 

[flb]

The solution for United isn't that hard. They DO still have enough money to stay competitive, they made a balls up of their transfer business but did file big money offers for players like Fabregas.

Solution: Sack the dinosaur with his "play not to lose" tactics and hire a modern coach who can do away with their antiquated football style. When you watch City/Liverpool/Arsenal then watch United, the difference is staggering. We look like modern teams, they look stuck in the past.

Someone like Simeone at United would keep them quite strong. Frank de Boer would even be a step up from Moyes.

Personally, I hope they stand by their 'values' and give Moyes the full 6 years or so. He'll get them top 4 regularly and challenge for the title now and then, but as long as he is there they will underachieve.

Thats all well and good if you have a talented young squad that can pick up the pace with a new manager

Evra,Wio,Carrick,Vidic,RVP,Giggs are all well over 30, serious money to replace players like that.

Smalling,Jones,Young,Kagawi,Nani,Wellshit and the little poo are not good enough players for a club of Uniteds standing.


Serious serious surgery needed from top to bottom, the fact that GPC spunked big money on an ageing injury prone striker to stick two fingers up at City makes it all the more laughable-and now by all accounts they will be losing there two best players is music to my fucking ears.


The tick as well and truly fucking tocked.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Haven't read the whole of this thread but I can't be the only one who sees uncanny similarities between the behaviour of the swivel-eyed David Moyes and the post-Busby appointee Wilf McGuiness. Very worrying !

 

[The Pink Panther]

Thats all well and good if you have a talented young squad that can pick up the pace with a new manager

Evra,Wio,Carrick,Vidic,RVP,Giggs are all well over 30, serious money to replace players like that.

Smalling,Jones,Young,Kagawi,Nani,Wellshit and the little poo are not good enough players for a club of Uniteds standing.


Serious serious surgery needed from top to bottom, the fact that GPC spunked big money on an ageing injury prone striker to stick two fingers up at City makes it all the more laughable-and now by all accounts they will be losing there two best players is music to my fucking ears.


The tick as well and truly fucking tocked.

As much as we take the piss, Jones will become a top quality centre half
The rest, I agree

 

[Anonymous]

Thats all well and good if you have a talented young squad that can pick up the pace with a new manager

Evra,Wio,Carrick,Vidic,RVP,Giggs are all well over 30, serious money to replace players like that.

Smalling,Jones,Young,Kagawi,Nani,Wellshit and the little poo are not good enough players for a club of Uniteds standing.


Serious serious surgery needed from top to bottom, the fact that GPC spunked big money on an ageing injury prone striker to stick two fingers up at City makes it all the more laughable-and now by all accounts they will be losing there two best players is music to my fucking ears.


The tick as well and truly fucking tocked.

As much as we take the piss, Jones will become a world champion gurner
The rest, I agree

Fixed.

 

[lloydie]

Thats all well and good if you have a talented young squad that can pick up the pace with a new manager

Evra,Wio,Carrick,Vidic,RVP,Giggs are all well over 30, serious money to replace players like that.

Smalling,Jones,Young,Kagawi,Nani,Wellshit and the little poo are not good enough players for a club of Uniteds standing.


Serious serious surgery needed from top to bottom, the fact that GPC spunked big money on an ageing injury prone striker to stick two fingers up at City makes it all the more laughable-and now by all accounts they will be losing there two best players is music to my fucking ears.


The tick as well and truly fucking tocked.

As much as we take the piss, Jones IS a world champion gurner
The rest, I agree

Fixed.

Re-fixed

 

[Blueboy Danny]

How about the "Theatre of Broken Dreams", has a nice ring to it.

 

[mcfcphil]

caller on now thinks they should sign reus and "gunderang" from dortmund

 

[mcmanus]

caller on now thinks they should sign reus and "gunderang" from dortmund

I think Jessica Alba should come round house every night and suck my dick.