United Thread 2014/15 (continued)

[Bill]

ragmanc34 - Bet logging onto Bluemoon is the first thing you thought of this morning !!

not so. his first thought was are my wheels still on.

 

[tonea2003]

It was mate, i enjoy the debates. No point joining a Red forum is there where nobody is gonna have a debate

Good man. I've enjoyed this thread as you've stood your corner without resorting to abuse. That you are partisan and tailor your "facts" to suit your allegiance is fine by me, fans should be blinkered. I think what stood out as an illustration of FFP for me was that when we played you the other week, our back 4 and goalkeeper cost less than you paid for Rio Ferdinand way back when. Now I think about it, the whole lot cost roughly what De Gea cost you and less than Luke Shaw. So you'll forgive us if we call bullshit on "Financial fair play"

Yeah, you did well with Kompany, what was it £6.7m for him. Absolute steal. But then Rio was more of investment for the future back then, and he's English, same as Shaw, and you'll always get ripped off. Like i say Mangala cost the same as Rio and then the extra £10m thats come out. I know you can say about inflation and all that, but you can't really use that as football economics don't exactly follow the trend of European or Global economics. For example, I think Mangala and Rojo were both in the Portuguese Team of the year last year. There's only 13 months age gap between them, so if you're going off that, you've either been ripped off for Mangala or we've done exceptional business to get Rojo. Although i'd say it's neither as football doesn't follow any economic trend.

think your memory is playing tricks on you mate, he was 23 when you splashed the big bucks, that was a here and now buy
and also you are rushing to conclusions on mangala, too early to judge after really only playing half the season
exceptional business on rojo?? not on this seasons efforts it isn't, again too early to tell

 

[redmanc34]

Yeah I know. I just wanted to call him a clown when he gave us his valuation of Stevie Ireland.

Managala fee was confirmed here <a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/11338738/Manchester-City-finances-under-scrutiny-from-Uefa.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Uefa.html</a>

£32m went directly to Porto I believe, £10m to his agent, as he had a stake in him, which is legal in Portugal, but not in England, so you had to pay £10m extra to get the controlling stake from his agent in order to make him eligbible in the Premier League
.
Same happened with Marcos Rojo who we signed
If you want the source of the transfer fees then its
transferleague.co.uk

Everything is on there, but you're gonna tell me it's lying now aren't you because it doesn't equate to what you have been told.
As I said the squad prices calculated are that of the current 25 men squads for both clubs. United did indeed have the most expensive squad in PL history until you signed Bony.

You are wrong on the Mangala point as somebody else already pointed out. My original question though was regarding the Milner valuation. Where did you come up with that?

Well i've provided you with a source for Mangala, you can have another if you like, and then say thats a lie too
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/09/manchester-city-eliaquim-mangala-inconsistency" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... onsistency</a>

Then James Milner, here's a source, again though i'm sure i'm a liar
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/8918222.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 918222.stm</a>

in fact have 2 more sources all reporting the same.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/aug/17/manchester-city-james-milner-stephen-ireland" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... en-ireland</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1304052/James-Milner-seals-26m-switch-Aston-Villa-Manchester-City.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -City.html</a>

 

[redmanc34]

Good man. I've enjoyed this thread as you've stood your corner without resorting to abuse. That you are partisan and tailor your "facts" to suit your allegiance is fine by me, fans should be blinkered. I think what stood out as an illustration of FFP for me was that when we played you the other week, our back 4 and goalkeeper cost less than you paid for Rio Ferdinand way back when. Now I think about it, the whole lot cost roughly what De Gea
cost you and less than Luke Shaw. So you'll forgive us if we call bullshit on "Financial fair play"

Yeah, you did well with Kompany, what was it £6.7m for him. Absolute steal. But then Rio was more of investment for the future back then, and he's English, same as Shaw, and you'll always get ripped off. Like i say Mangala cost the same as Rio and then the extra £10m thats come out. I know you can say about inflation and all that, but you can't really use that as football economics don't exactly follow the trend of European or Global economics. For example, I think Mangala and Rojo were both in the Portuguese Team of the year last year. There's only 13 months age gap between them, so if you're going off that, you've either been ripped off for Mangala or we've done exceptional business to get Rojo. Although i'd say it's neither as football doesn't follow any economic trend.

think your memory is playing tricks on you mate, he was 23 when you splashed the big bucks, that was a here and now buy
and also you are rushing to conclusions on mangala, too early to judge after really only playing half the season
exceptional business on rojo?? not on this seasons efforts it isn't, again too early to tell

Rio was a here and now buy at 23? Even know defenders have their best years at 28-32 and he was there for 10 years.
Well Managala is 24 so isn't that a here an now buy then as well?

 

[manimanc]

Yeah, you did well with Kompany, what was it £6.7m for him. Absolute steal. But then Rio was more of investment for the future back then, and he's English, same as Shaw, and you'll always get ripped off. Like i say Mangala cost the same as Rio and then the extra £10m thats come out. I know you can say about inflation and all that, but you can't really use that as football economics don't exactly follow the trend of European or Global economics. For example, I think Mangala and Rojo were both in the Portuguese Team of the year last year. There's only 13 months age gap between them, so if you're going off that, you've either been ripped off for Mangala or we've done exceptional business to get Rojo. Although i'd say it's neither as football doesn't follow any economic trend.

think your memory is playing tricks on you mate, he was 23 when you splashed the big bucks, that was a here and now buy
and also you are rushing to conclusions on mangala, too early to judge after really only playing half the season
exceptional business on rojo?? not on this seasons efforts it isn't, again too early to tell

Rio was a here and now buy at 23? Even know defenders have their best years at 28-32 and he was there for 10 years.
Well Managala is 24 so isn't that a here an now buy then as well?

Fuck me are you Still here you boring ****?
Why don't you go and haunt another forum....
Plastic twat.

 

[mancitymick]

think your memory is playing tricks on you mate, he was 23 when you splashed the big bucks, that was a here and now buy
and also you are rushing to conclusions on mangala, too early to judge after really only playing half the season
exceptional business on rojo?? not on this seasons efforts it isn't, again too early to tell

Rio was a here and now buy at 23? Even know defenders have their best years at 28-32 and he was there for 10 years.
Well Managala is 24 so isn't that a here an now buy then as well?

Fuck me are you Still here you boring c**t?
Why don't you go and haunt another forum....
Plastic twat.

To be fair, even though i dont agree with half of what he has said. He aint been that bad compared with some

 

[oman0115]

Rio was a here and now buy at 23? Even know defenders have their best years at 28-32 and he was there for 10 years.
Well Managala is 24 so isn't that a here an now buy then as well?

Fuck me are you Still here you boring c**t?
Why don't you go and haunt another forum....
Plastic twat.

To be fair, even though i dont agree with half of what he has said. He aint been that bad compared with some

He is boring though, and who really gives a sh!t. He's had a good run but I'd be happy if he called it a day.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

God's own Club

Aguero Del Castillo, Sergio- £38m
*Boyata, Dedryck Anga- £0
Caballero Lazcano, Wilfredo Daniel- £4.4m
*Clichy, Gael- £7m
Demichelis, Martin Gaston- £4m
Dzeko, Edin- £27m
*Hart, Charles Joseph John- £0.5m
Jimenez Silva, David Josue- £24m
Jovetic, Stevan- £22m
Kolarov, Aleksandar- £16m
Kompany, Vincent- £6m
*Lampard, Frank James- £0
Luiz Roza, Fernando- £30m
Mangala, Eliaquim- £32m
*Milner, James Philip- £18m
Nasri, Samir- £24m
Navas, Jesus- £15m
Reges, Fernando Francisco- £12m
Sagna, Bacary- £0
Toure, Gnegneri Yaya- £24m
*Wright, Richard Ian- £0
Zabaleta Girod, Pablo Javier- £6.5m
Bony, Wilfried - £25m

Total £335.4m

Inferior Rag C*nts

Blind, Daley- £14m
*Carrick, Michael- £18.6m
De Gea Quintana, David- £18.9m
Di Maria, Angel Fabian- £59.7m
*Evans, Jonathan Grant- £0
Fellaini-Bakkioui, Marouane- £27.5m
Garcia Zarate, Radamel Falcao -£6m
Herrera Aguera, Ander- £29m
*Jones, Philip Anthony- £18m
Lindegaard, Anders Rozenkrantz- £3.5m
*Lingard, Jesse Ellis- £0
Mata Garcia, Juan Manuel- £37.1m
*Pereira da Silva, Rafael- £2.5m
Rojo, Faustino Marcos Alberto- £16m
*Rooney, Wayne Mark- £27m
*Shaw, Luke- £27m
*Smalling, Christopher- £12m
Valdes i Arribas, Victor- £0
Valencia Mosquera, Luis Antonio- £16m
Van Persie, Robin- £24m
*Young, Ashley Simon- £18m

Total £374.8m

I think someone has been listening to too much TV and radio. I mean you'd at least research it first wouldn't you lads.

They're the squads that have been registered with the Premier League. I've even helped you out there, because Luke Shaw isn't registered because of his age.

Corrected, now jog on raggy.

 

[moomba]

£32m went directly to Porto I believe

I think they publicly announced the figure. It was much less than that. €26m or thereabouts IIRC.

 

[101toMR]

Everything this ballbag is about is everything I despise.
Just think someone has to have this sad bastard in their family.