United Thread 2014/15

[gordondaviesmoustache]

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[Groke]

Just a thought - the Adidas deal might not look so good in 5/6 years time (and it has 10 years to run) due to the cost of transfers / wages etc being driven up by money bags rags and others. They seem to have agreed all their major commercial deals at the same time therefore fixing this income stream for the foreseeable future. It might suit an accountant but not the football market in the future if it cannot be increased.
It might look tasty now but be insufficient in the near future and locked in for the term of the agreements.

Don't be silly, 750 million is almost treble the amount ADUG paid for our entire club. It's a staggering deal that has all the top clubs in world football scratching their heads. Just from the Chevrolet and adidas deals alone they will get 143 million per season. That's the remaining Glazer debt wiped out in 2 years if they wanted to. Add to this the 3 million per game they make from home matches and that's another 75 million. Then you have the bumper PL pay out, TV deals with Sky and BT, the training ground sponsored by AON, the deal with Aeroflot, Mexican crisps etc etc You are talking the best part of 300 million in incoming revenue every year. He might be a weird looking pixie man, who can't tell a Fellani from a Fabregas, but Ewar Woo War can sell sand to the arabs.

FFP - oh the irony.

On a personal front, I shall never buy an adidas item ever again - nor Mexican crisps

 

[Zubrman]

Just a thought - the Adidas deal might not look so good in 5/6 years time (and it has 10 years to run) due to the cost of transfers / wages etc being driven up by money bags rags and others. They seem to have agreed all their major commercial deals at the same time therefore fixing this income stream for the foreseeable future. It might suit an accountant but not the football market in the future if it cannot be increased.
It might look tasty now but be insufficient in the near future and locked in for the term of the agreements.

Don't be silly, 750 million is almost treble the amount ADUG paid for our entire club. It's a staggering deal that has all the top clubs in world football scratching their heads. Just from the Chevrolet and adidas deals alone they will get 143 million per season. That's the remaining Glazer debt wiped out in 2 years if they wanted to. Add to this the 3 million per game they make from home matches and that's another 75 million. Then you have the bumper PL pay out, TV deals with Sky and BT, the training ground sponsored by AON, the deal with Aeroflot, Mexican crisps etc etc You are talking the best part of 300 million in incoming revenue every year. He might be a weird looking pixie man, who can't tell a Fellani from a Fabregas, but Ewar Woo War can sell sand to the arabs.

FFP - oh the irony.

On a personal front, I shall never buy an adidas item ever again - nor Mexican crisps

And I shall not be buying a Chevrolet anytime soon.

 

[ElanJo]

Adidas must get a huge cut of shirt sales income. Only way this deal could make sense.

Utd probably make 50-70m a year on shirt sales. No idea if true but I'm betting Adidas will get most of that and so the 75m a year deal may be worth closer to Real Madrid levels in reality. If I'm right the deal is more a headline grabber than a huge monetary boon for them.

 

[andyhinch]

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Thought all you lot stuck together:)

 

[TGR]

Don't be silly, 750 million is almost treble the amount ADUG paid for our entire club. It's a staggering deal that has all the top clubs in world football scratching their heads. Just from the Chevrolet and adidas deals alone they will get 143 million per season. That's the remaining Glazer debt wiped out in 2 years if they wanted to. Add to this the 3 million per game they make from home matches and that's another 75 million. Then you have the bumper PL pay out, TV deals with Sky and BT, the training ground sponsored by AON, the deal with Aeroflot, Mexican crisps etc etc You are talking the best part of 300 million in incoming revenue every year. He might be a weird looking pixie man, who can't tell a Fellani from a Fabregas, but Ewar Woo War can sell sand to the arabs.

FFP - oh the irony.

On a personal front, I shall never buy an adidas item ever again - nor Mexican crisps

And I shall not be buying a Chevrolet anytime soon.

I've switched my Korean noodle supplier.

 

[Hoghead]

FFP - oh the irony.

On a personal front, I shall never buy an adidas item ever again - nor Mexican crisps

And I shall not be buying a Chevrolet anytime soon.

I've switched my Korean noodle supplier.

The point I'm trying to make is that 3 years ago our sponsorship deals looked great. Now they do not compared to the rags, so in 5/6 years these current commercial deals may not be too good especially over a 10 year period.
Yes they look obscene now, but who knows what in the future.
Just saying.

 

[IH8MUFC]

FFP keeping it fair as always. It's going to take total incompetence for the rags not to win the league every season now. Given the fact their revenue is so much greater than everybody else's. If Fifa had any cojones they would split the deals evenly between all clubs and make it a fair sporting competition. Not just fair for their own agenda.

 

[Dubai Blue]

So....untied will earn £143m/year from kit sponsorship alone

70m, addidas, 53m chevrolet, 20m aon (training kit)


Sets the benchmark for "fair value" contracts. I think this may be beneficial to us going forwards

Don't be a knob, this is a business relationship between two unconnected parties, whereas nobody believes that our sponsorship deals from the M E are anything but "gifts".

Irrelevant. As long as Man Utd are getting £143m a year, that is the benchmark for the market rate (for a 7th placed team that isn't in Europe). So in theory, we can sign deal exceeding that amount and UEFA wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they tried to claim it wasn't fair value. Even if we don't, we can massively increase our sponsorship revenue, even from Middle East sources, and UEFA could hardly complain if our sponsorship was less than a mid-table Premier League side.

But it's not a lump sum of 143m, it's split into 3 components. Yes, we could theoretically match the Chevrolet and Aon sponsorship deals through a couple of "unconnected" UAE-based companies, but we have no chance of getting anywhere near 70m from a kit supplier so 143m a year is a pipe dream.

 

[blueinsa]

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Pete fucking Boyle for one I would suggest!

What gets me with these fuckers is they are actually allowed to post as rags and there is no need to try and pretend otherwise!