United Thread 2014/15

[dronefromsector7g]

SCUM TWATS HATE THE TWATS FUCKING SCUMMY RAGGY BASTARD TWATS!.

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So your not keen then?

I got tired of typing 0s

 

[Hoghead]

Just been doing a bit of light reading on Sadcafe to set me up for the day and came across this nugget regarding their season starts here. I know there was Fergie time that aided them, but this is just not on (literally), thick tw*t

Excitement levels couldn't be much higher right now. As the OP says, the season kicks off in a few days' time.

And just think, if we hammer QPR and all other 18 teams lose ( ), we'll be right back in the title race. Bring it on!

Seriously, can't wait for this side to click and switch into LVG mode. Don't think it'll happen overnight, but a win on Sunday wouldn't half help speed things up.

On their QPR match preview there are quite a few rags predicting a loss or a draw and a few hoping for a win - expectations are now so low. A couple of seasons ago clubs like QPR would have been expected to be hammered especially at the swamp. How their expectations have plummeted - pathetic cunts.
SCUM

 

[Samosa]

The following has just been posted by a City fan on a Utd thread on a North West fishing forum:

All this talk of philosophy is laughable. It's laudable that at least some Un*ted fans do admit that in the early Ferguson years they spent beyond their means in order to attain the early successes, such as the FA Cup and Cup Winners' Cup victories. It was these successes that created a platform for them to win the first Premiership (as it was then known, remember) title, which triggered the early increases in income and allowed the "Class of '92" a platform of their own to build upon. Knowing that the club had confidence based on the success in the early 90's made it a lot easier for those young players to fit in, in addition to their admitted abilities. However, other than this single group of youth produce, there has been no Un*ted philosophy.

The continued development in income allowed them to improve various elements of the club, such as their Swamp ground, etc. The ever-growing Premiership was a perfect stage to attract casual fans, meaning more TV income, more ticket sales, more shirt sales and more sponsorship deals. Don't kid yourselves, Un*ted were simply in the right place at the right time. Ferguson demanded that they spend big and fast to trigger the catch-up to Liverpool and they built off of that. Whether Rags like to admit this or not, the head figures running the Premiership chose them to be the highlight club of the league to sell the product to the world. Were it not for the Heysel and Hillsborough incidents, you can be certain that Liverpool would have been the club of choice and they would have used the new resources and income to replace the old guard of the 70's and 80's and as such continued their own success.

As for bitterness, I for one can never remember Liverpool being so hated for all those years. Of course people were annoyed by them and probably envious but there was never hatred. Un*ted have been hated for decades because they're a hateful club. Let's not forget how they treated the families of the Munich victims, kicking them out of their rented homes because they refused to provide them with financial support. Let us not forget how they use that air crash for their own financial gain (the 50th Anniversary of the Munich Air Disaster Sponsored by AIG, anyone...). Let us not forget that, despite having the wealth at their disposal, that they inflated the market in the 90's not only with their transfer fees, as they had done since the late 80's, but also their wage packets, feeding Roy Keane's greedy demands with ease.

All this nonsense of philosophy is based on two things, backed up by media support; Ferguson's dictatorial spell in charge of the club and that single youth class of 1992. Media and public manipulation go hand in hand, and people are like sheep. Have Un*ted spent their own money this summer? To an extent yes. I say to an extent, because people make out like Un*ted's income is pure and well earned. I'd hardly say selling your soul to the world for the sake of a few shirt sales is pure, not forgetting the fictitious figure of 659m fans...

Will Un*ted do well this season? Maybe so, but don't dare try and take the moral highground with your fantasy of morality because it is your club that done more to turn football into a financial business than any other entity.

 

[pominoz]

I was watching "Missing Pieces", a Kiwi programme about reuniting long lost relatives.

Anyway, the main story was about a Manchester born lad that was adopted out and was raised in NZ.

They found his parents, they were forced to give him up for adoption as they were both only 15 at the time ( parents married as soon as they could and are still together 40 years later).

Cue, emotional reunion, i was right into it.

Hugs, tears, more hugs, then the first question was "red or blue?", between the son and long lost dad, "Red" was the reply from both.

Is it wrong for me to have gone from the edge of welling up, to thinking "pair of twats"?

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

I was watching "Missing Pieces", a Kiwi programme about reuniting long lost relatives.

Anyway, the main story was about a Manchester born lad that was adopted out and was raised in NZ.

They found his parents, they were forced to give him up for adoption as they were both only 15 at the time ( parents married as soon as they could and are still together 40 years later).

Cue, emotional reunion, i was right into it.

Hugs, tears, more hugs, then the first question was "red or blue?", between the son and long lost dad, "Red" was the reply from both.

Is it wrong for me to have gone from the edge of welling up, to thinking "pair of twats"?

No, it's what makes you human. You''d have had to have a heart made of stone not to feel that way.

 

[bluemc1]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

 

[richardtheref]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

I have a bet with a rag at work every season over who will finish higher in the league. It is usually a bottle of wine. Today he got carried away & asked if i fancied £50 this year instead of the wine & he would give me a 10 points head start. Needless to say took him up on it.

 

[bluemc1]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

I have a bet with a rag at work every season over who will finish higher in the league. It is usually a bottle of wine. Today he got carried away & asked if i fancied £50 this year instead of the wine & he would give me a 10 points head start. Needless to say took him up on it.

you lucky sod, 35 games to make up 15 points, they will need 95 points for him to stand a chance, id love to know the bookies odds on that bet, i might offer that my mate :)

 

[Blue Mist]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

I have a bet with a rag at work every season over who will finish higher in the league. It is usually a bottle of wine. Today he got carried away & asked if i fancied £50 this year instead of the wine & he would give me a 10 points head start. Needless to say took him up on it.

Please will you introduce me to your mate. By the end of the season I may be in need of £50 and it will certainly be the easiest money I have ever 'earned'.

 

[bluethrunthru]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

I have a bet with a rag at work every season over who will finish higher in the league. It is usually a bottle of wine. Today he got carried away & asked if i fancied £50 this year instead of the wine & he would give me a 10 points head start. Needless to say took him up on it.

Please will you introduce me to your mate. By the end of the season I may be in need of £50 and it will certainly be the easiest money I have ever 'earned'.

when you say friend are you in fact his carer?

 

[hertsblue]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

To be honest they should. They had a PL winning team, spent heavily and had 1 bad season under a manager now sacked. They have spent again heavily, even by their standards and what they have spent and with no CL football they should be expected to challenge. Anyone else not at least challenging for what they have spent would be seen and classed as failure

 

[pominoz]

I was watching "Missing Pieces", a Kiwi programme about reuniting long lost relatives.

Anyway, the main story was about a Manchester born lad that was adopted out and was raised in NZ.

They found his parents, they were forced to give him up for adoption as they were both only 15 at the time ( parents married as soon as they could and are still together 40 years later).

Cue, emotional reunion, i was right into it.

Hugs, tears, more hugs, then the first question was "red or blue?", between the son and long lost dad, "Red" was the reply from both.

Is it wrong for me to have gone from the edge of welling up, to thinking "pair of twats"?

No, it's what makes you human. You''d have had to have a heart made of stone not to feel that way.

Thank fuck for that. :)

 

[bluemc1]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

To be honest they should. They had a PL winning team, spent heavily and had 1 bad season under a manager now sacked. They have spent again heavily, even by their standards and what they have spent and with no CL football they should be expected to challenge. Anyone else not at least challenging for what they have spent would be seen and classed as failure

mate they haven't got a fucking prayer of winning the league this season and if he plays that back 3 v us, Liverpool or Chelsea they will be ripped apart

 

[Blimpin reeny]

Just reading that post from the fishing forum which compelled me to join and log in. To say that Liverpool weren't hated in the 80's is complete balls. I remember proper fist fights home and away and in the school playground with Liverpool fans. There was always a tasty rivalry between Manchester clubs but being a liverpool fan at school was like an open invitation for everyone to bully you. And then there was leeds United in the 70's who were the biggest bunch of thugs to take to a football pitch, they were diving, cheating, fouling animals who won by sheer force of evil. People have selective memories sometimes, so it's only right to set the record straight.

 

[mscenterh750]

SCUM TWATS HATE THE TWATS FUCKING SCUMMY RAGGY BASTARD TWATS!.

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Only dis.
I had my rag cousin round last night, he was being serious when he came out with "Utd are just responding to the market City created," to which I said bollocks and how many times have we broke the transfer record compared to Utd. He still wouldn't accept it.

You should've twated him then ;)

 

[bluethrunthru]

having a drink with a mate of mine monday night ( he's a big red ) we were talking football but not banter just general feelings and stuff, now he's a bright lad a nice lad, goes home away and europe a real football fan and he actually comes out with " i think we will win the league " ?????? WTF goes on in their heads ?

To be honest they should. They had a PL winning team, spent heavily and had 1 bad season under a manager now sacked. They have spent again heavily, even by their standards and what they have spent and with no CL football they should be expected to challenge. Anyone else not at least challenging for what they have spent would be seen and classed as failure

Yes but never confuse amount spent with quality spending - everybody can see where they have issues and Turtle seems to be doing a Wenger with an I know best approach and steadfastly refusing to buy what is needed to sort defence out etc - you could buy £165m worth of goal keepers in the transfer window but having 10 or so world class keepers and no strike force is not going to win you the league. They will be lucky to see top 4 if he persists with 3 at the back- which fortunately I think his ego will make him do.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

United have released their figures:

Revenue of £433.2m, up 19%.
Sponsorship revenue up 49%.
Adjusted EBITDA of £130.1m, up 20%.
Commercial revenue up £36.8m on 2013.
Broadcasting revenue up £34.2m on 2013.
Total revenue up £70m.
Profit down £122.6m on 2013.
Debt down £47.4m to £341.8m.
Cash reduced £28m to £66.4m.
Operating expenses increased by £62m to £372.3m.
David Moyes sacking cost them £5.2m.
Employee benefit expenses went up £34.3m to £214.8m.

Predictions for 2015:

Revenue of £385-395m.
EBITDA of £90-95m.

 

[Bluewonder]

United have released their figures:

Revenue of £433.2m, up 19%.
Sponsorship revenue up 49%.
Adjusted EBITDA of £130.1m, up 20%.
Commercial revenue up £36.8m on 2013.
Broadcasting revenue up £34.2m on 2013.
Total revenue up £70m.
Profit down £122.6m on 2013.
Debt down £47.4m to £341.8m.
Cash reduced £28m to £66.4m.
Operating expenses increased by £62m to £372.3m.
David Moyes sacking cost them £5.2m.
Employee benefit expenses went up £34.3m to £214.8m.

Predictions for 2015:

Revenue of £385-395m.
EBITDA of £90-95m.

I can see our revenue exceeding theirs for this coming season. If our revenue goes past theirs whilst they're still in £300m worth of debt, they'll never see us again.

 

[M18CTID]

United have released their figures:

Revenue of £433.2m, up 19%.
Sponsorship revenue up 49%.
Adjusted EBITDA of £130.1m, up 20%.
Commercial revenue up £36.8m on 2013.
Broadcasting revenue up £34.2m on 2013.
Total revenue up £70m.
Profit down £122.6m on 2013.
Debt down £47.4m to £341.8m.
Cash reduced £28m to £66.4m.
Operating expenses increased by £62m to £372.3m.
David Moyes sacking cost them £5.2m.
Employee benefit expenses went up £34.3m to £214.8m.

Predictions for 2015:

Revenue of £385-395m.
EBITDA of £90-95m.

So even with the Chevrolet deal kicking in this season, they're expecting the next set of figures to show revenue down by at least £38 million compared to the above figures. Obviously, much of that will be down to a lack of European football this season but it's still a bigger drop than I anticipated.

 

[LoveCity]

Their wage bill is going to surpass ours soon, pretty sure.

It'd be lovely for them to miss out on top 4, but you can't underestimate how much no European football benefits you as the season goes on, as Liverpool showed last year. United are also out of the League Cup so they're going to have a very relaxed schedule all season and will face top teams who have accumulated a lot more fatigue/injuries.