Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:MANCHESTER United fan Oliver Holt wites for the Daily Mirror. He has felt United’s slip from the top of the Premier League to also-rans. It’s like the 1980s all over again at Old Trafford. But Holt knows what United need to get back to the summit. No, not a brilliant young manager marshalling a fabulous youth team. They need to spend. They need to be like Manchester City.
Holt wrote on August 19:
“To sit at Old Trafford last Saturday afternoon and watch Manchester United being outplayed by Swansea City was to feel a rising sense of bewilderment.Sure, many of us thought United might slip from the summit briefly when Sir Alex Ferguson retired.
But nobody – nobody – thought they would fall this far, this fast. They had been so good for so long, it just did not seem possible…
Everyone knew they needed to sign four or five world-class players this summer to have a chance of bridging the gap that had opened up between them and the rest. Instead, they signed two very expensive prospects, Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera – then fiddled while their empire burned.
Then they spent a fortune on the talented Angel Di Maria and the great Radamel Falcao. United also bought Dutch World Cup player Daley Blind.
Was Holt happier? He writes today:
A club associated for decades with long-term planning and stability has turned with frightening speed into a short-term, panic-driven basket case, writes Oliver Holt…
But they bought world-class players.
…the pace with which England’s most famous club has changed its philosophy is frightening. United has gone from a club associated with long-term planning and stability to the ultimate short-term, panic-driven basket case. This summer, they have instituted a galactico policy in all but name. The last few months have been a triumph for style over substance. Give it another six months and they’ll be charging fans to get into Old Trafford for the presentation of the next star name.The club that once had a manager for 26 years, that prided itself on bringing kids through the youth set-up, just paid £20m to bring a 28-year-old player on loan for a year.”
So. Buying four or five world-class player was a bad idea?
When the team you support slips, unless it wins again eveything it does is wrong…
nijinsky's fetlocks said:Blue Til Death said:He comes out with reasonable points occasionally, interspersed with incoherent rambling and stupidity, he digs big holes then jumps in them with gay abandon, that's why I like him and that's why he is perfectly suited to this forum and in particular the Cellar.
He's still a c**t though and always will be..!
Did you mean to send that to me as a PM mate?
stony said:Allendintiers said:Matty said:I think it stems from an early post of yours where you referred to United as "they", although it could be read as "they" was meant to be the owners/decision makers as opposed to the club itself. Some will have construed that as you hiding your allegiancies, as when referring to City the majority of us would say "we" rather than "they".
If I were typing the above, but about City and one of our former managers, I'd have used we and not they.
I explained that, though. The Glazers are 'they' not 'we'
Would City fans use the term 'we' to describe the abu dhabi united group? Dunno? It's all a bit pedantic.
Explain this then you lying rag turd ?
Allendintiers said:If they knew anything about their own history, they would know that it was Manchester United fans which gave their own team the nickname 'the Rags'. Due to the state of their kit during rough times.
Allendintiers said:Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:MANCHESTER United fan Oliver Holt wites for the Daily Mirror. He has felt United’s slip from the top of the Premier League to also-rans. It’s like the 1980s all over again at Old Trafford. But Holt knows what United need to get back to the summit. No, not a brilliant young manager marshalling a fabulous youth team. They need to spend. They need to be like Manchester City.
Holt wrote on August 19:
“To sit at Old Trafford last Saturday afternoon and watch Manchester United being outplayed by Swansea City was to feel a rising sense of bewilderment.Sure, many of us thought United might slip from the summit briefly when Sir Alex Ferguson retired.
But nobody – nobody – thought they would fall this far, this fast. They had been so good for so long, it just did not seem possible…
Everyone knew they needed to sign four or five world-class players this summer to have a chance of bridging the gap that had opened up between them and the rest. Instead, they signed two very expensive prospects, Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera – then fiddled while their empire burned.
Then they spent a fortune on the talented Angel Di Maria and the great Radamel Falcao. United also bought Dutch World Cup player Daley Blind.
Was Holt happier? He writes today:
A club associated for decades with long-term planning and stability has turned with frightening speed into a short-term, panic-driven basket case, writes Oliver Holt…
But they bought world-class players.
…the pace with which England’s most famous club has changed its philosophy is frightening. United has gone from a club associated with long-term planning and stability to the ultimate short-term, panic-driven basket case. This summer, they have instituted a galactico policy in all but name. The last few months have been a triumph for style over substance. Give it another six months and they’ll be charging fans to get into Old Trafford for the presentation of the next star name.The club that once had a manager for 26 years, that prided itself on bringing kids through the youth set-up, just paid £20m to bring a 28-year-old player on loan for a year.”
So. Buying four or five world-class player was a bad idea?
When the team you support slips, unless it wins again eveything it does is wrong…
I don't get his point at all. He says that everyone knew we needed to sign 4-5 decent players. Then he says why are they abandoning traditions of bringing youth through and employing a galactico policy? Maybe he was on a day off when a team mostly made up of under 21's got completely turned over by MK Dons?
nixmith2 said:They really need an injection of humour over there, that is all I can say.
You are here to trollAllendintiers said:Maybe he was on a day off when a team mostly made up of under 21's got completely turned over by MK Dons?
Allendintiers said:Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:MANCHESTER United fan Oliver Holt wites for the Daily Mirror. He has felt United’s slip from the top of the Premier League to also-rans. It’s like the 1980s all over again at Old Trafford. But Holt knows what United need to get back to the summit. No, not a brilliant young manager marshalling a fabulous youth team. They need to spend. They need to be like Manchester City.
Holt wrote on August 19:
“To sit at Old Trafford last Saturday afternoon and watch Manchester United being outplayed by Swansea City was to feel a rising sense of bewilderment.Sure, many of us thought United might slip from the summit briefly when Sir Alex Ferguson retired.
But nobody – nobody – thought they would fall this far, this fast. They had been so good for so long, it just did not seem possible…
Everyone knew they needed to sign four or five world-class players this summer to have a chance of bridging the gap that had opened up between them and the rest. Instead, they signed two very expensive prospects, Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera – then fiddled while their empire burned.
Then they spent a fortune on the talented Angel Di Maria and the great Radamel Falcao. United also bought Dutch World Cup player Daley Blind.
Was Holt happier? He writes today:
A club associated for decades with long-term planning and stability has turned with frightening speed into a short-term, panic-driven basket case, writes Oliver Holt…
But they bought world-class players.
…the pace with which England’s most famous club has changed its philosophy is frightening. United has gone from a club associated with long-term planning and stability to the ultimate short-term, panic-driven basket case. This summer, they have instituted a galactico policy in all but name. The last few months have been a triumph for style over substance. Give it another six months and they’ll be charging fans to get into Old Trafford for the presentation of the next star name.The club that once had a manager for 26 years, that prided itself on bringing kids through the youth set-up, just paid £20m to bring a 28-year-old player on loan for a year.”
So. Buying four or five world-class player was a bad idea?
When the team you support slips, unless it wins again eveything it does is wrong…
I don't get his point at all. He says that everyone knew we needed to sign 4-5 decent players. Then he says why are they abandoning traditions of bringing youth through and employing a galactico policy? Maybe he was on a day off when a team mostly made up of under 21's got completely turned over by MK Dons?
mancityvstoke said:Allendintiers said:Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:MANCHESTER United fan Oliver Holt wites for the Daily Mirror. He has felt United’s slip from the top of the Premier League to also-rans. It’s like the 1980s all over again at Old Trafford. But Holt knows what United need to get back to the summit. No, not a brilliant young manager marshalling a fabulous youth team. They need to spend. They need to be like Manchester City.
Holt wrote on August 19:
“To sit at Old Trafford last Saturday afternoon and watch Manchester United being outplayed by Swansea City was to feel a rising sense of bewilderment.Sure, many of us thought United might slip from the summit briefly when Sir Alex Ferguson retired.
But nobody – nobody – thought they would fall this far, this fast. They had been so good for so long, it just did not seem possible…
Everyone knew they needed to sign four or five world-class players this summer to have a chance of bridging the gap that had opened up between them and the rest. Instead, they signed two very expensive prospects, Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera – then fiddled while their empire burned.
Then they spent a fortune on the talented Angel Di Maria and the great Radamel Falcao. United also bought Dutch World Cup player Daley Blind.
Was Holt happier? He writes today:
A club associated for decades with long-term planning and stability has turned with frightening speed into a short-term, panic-driven basket case, writes Oliver Holt…
But they bought world-class players.
…the pace with which England’s most famous club has changed its philosophy is frightening. United has gone from a club associated with long-term planning and stability to the ultimate short-term, panic-driven basket case. This summer, they have instituted a galactico policy in all but name. The last few months have been a triumph for style over substance. Give it another six months and they’ll be charging fans to get into Old Trafford for the presentation of the next star name.The club that once had a manager for 26 years, that prided itself on bringing kids through the youth set-up, just paid £20m to bring a 28-year-old player on loan for a year.”
So. Buying four or five world-class player was a bad idea?
When the team you support slips, unless it wins again eveything it does is wrong…
I don't get his point at all. He says that everyone knew we needed to sign 4-5 decent players. Then he says why are they abandoning traditions of bringing youth through and employing a galactico policy? Maybe he was on a day off when a team mostly made up of under 21's got completely turned over by MK Dons?
Can I ask you a question?
You're a red....loyal match attending and passionate I assume?
You love Manchester United? You have slagged City off like most other reds for years and laughed at us?
Attacked many blues in your time as a red?
Do you condone such Utd fan behaviour?
Why are you on a City site talking to or trying to wind up blues?
Do you not understand the level of hatred SOME of us have for you people?
Fetters apart.
Allendintiers said:mancityvstoke said:Allendintiers said:I don't get his point at all. He says that everyone knew we needed to sign 4-5 decent players. Then he says why are they abandoning traditions of bringing youth through and employing a galactico policy? Maybe he was on a day off when a team mostly made up of under 21's got completely turned over by MK Dons?
Can I ask you a question?
You're a red....loyal match attending and passionate I assume?
You love Manchester United? You have slagged City off like most other reds for years and laughed at us?
Attacked many blues in your time as a red?
Do you condone such Utd fan behaviour?
Why are you on a City site talking to or trying to wind up blues?
Do you not understand the level of hatred SOME of us have for you people?
Fetters apart.
Generalisations, sweeping accusations and blind hatred. What a cheery fellow!!
Sorry for not fitting your stereotype. And you are not weird in anyway at all.
*thumbs*
Allendintiers said:Yeah, but SKY BLUE made that up, though. My post history is there for all to see. If someone can find Allendintiers posting as a blue I will log off and never bother again.
Happy searching, but the truth is you've been duped I'm afraid.