United Thread 2015/16

[Wilf Wild 1937]

I think Rooney is the rags version of our Toure..undroppable because of circumstance..wages etc etc

Very true. The scary thing for the rags is that while Yaya is 32 and his contract runs out in 2017 Rooney is 30 with a contract until 2019. Realistically neither have any resale value given their decline and wages. I think Rooney will end up back at Everton in a couple of years time with the rags paying 80% of his wages. The problem is by that stage Everton might not want him.

 

[Jack the United fan]

The thing with Rooney is I can't decide whether he is the worst good player ever or the best bad player.

You look at his stats which are phenomenal for both club and country but there is a huge question mark over his ability to handle the pressure and be the main man.

England have depended on him for years and have never been better than shite. Where as at United he has scored the goals but for long parts of his career been in the shadow of players like Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo and even Van Persie.

The elite players like Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Ibrahimovic and Kun can handle the pressure and lead their team. I've never seen that from Rooney.

He's always been in that tier below. He's never really made the step up and fulfilled the potential he had, when at 19/20 it looked like he might be the best out there at some point. He was a bigger talent than Ronaldo. But the latter was in the gym everyday while Rooney would smoke cigarettes. Ronaldo would practice free-kicks, Rooney would practice infidelity. He never had the same drive to improve himself, which is why i guess he struggles to do the basic things right even now. His natural talent still sometimes comes through, like you say with his goalscoring, but when it comes to the kind of factors that separate the big players at the highest level, he's never been that bothered.

 

[kaz7]

Turtle blanked mp after the game yesterday the ignorant git

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Plenty of talk on Red Cafe about Rooney and what it will take to drop him. To be honest, I think the huge contract he has coupled with having the captaincy AND being England captain makes him pretty much undroppable and I actually think van Gaal's hands are tied on this issue.

Absolutely spot on. What people don't realise about Rooney's alleged £300k a week is that it's basically the same contract he signed in 2010 but he now gets a cut of any commercial/sponsorship deals that he's personally involved in. So if the sponsor wants Rooney, the club agree that he can do it and he gets some of that. That's why he'll play when his form doesn't deserve it.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Turtle blanked mp after the game yesterday the ignorant git

I noticed that

SCUM

 

[I Hart Man City]

Let's just pray that good old Wazza doesn't get injured.

 

[M18CTID]

Tell you something, some of them don't like being called Rags over on Rag Cafe - some right fucking mard arses over there who really should take up following a more genteel sport if they can't handle a bit of rivalry and a few unflattering comments. That said, they've got some decent posters which was reflected in the thread about us booing the CL anthem. Plenty of them were fair enough about it but still the odd fucking whopper in there - step forward Barca84 and Leroy The Rag who, even after it was pointed out why we boo the anthem, still didn't get it and launched into a couple of hilarious rants How the former even has the neck to post on any City related topic on there after being demolished by a couple of blues some months back is beyond me, and as for Leroy The Rag with his pathetic accusations that every City fan wishes death on United's players and fans amongst other things, grow up you fucking clown.

 

[tago_mago]

On a bit of a tangent, a disabled friend of mine just posted this about her experience on Saturday. Read it and think: are we *always* better than them?

It sure as hell doesn't belong to non-football fans in Manchester.

I don't know about the men shouting harassment at me at Piccadilly station until I broke down in tears and the person I was with (fortunately a 6'5" man) missed his train to lead me by the hand to my bus stop and asked me to text him when I got safely home.

But the ones that shouted at and slammed me into a train wall for the sin of trying to get off the train they were already storming their way on to, were in red and white football scarves. I noticed one look at my white cane and then kick me and grin, clearly thinking he'd get away with it because I couldn't see him.

I love many sports, English and American. I've enjoyed baseball, basketball, cricket, rugby league. None of these plague my city and my life like football. None fill the streets and trains and stations with people who think I'm less than them because I'm a woman, because I'm disabled, because I have dyed hair, because I'm not one of them.

The city is split in two, but not between red and blue. Between the football fans and the rest of us.

 

[kaz7]

On a bit of a tangent, a disabled friend of mine just posted this about her experience on Saturday. Read it and think: are we *always* better than them?

It sure as hell doesn't belong to non-football fans in Manchester.

I don't know about the men shouting harassment at me at Piccadilly station until I broke down in tears and the person I was with (fortunately a 6'5" man) missed his train to lead me by the hand to my bus stop and asked me to text him when I got safely home.

But the ones that shouted at and slammed me into a train wall for the sin of trying to get off the train they were already storming their way on to, were in red and white football scarves. I noticed one look at my white cane and then kick me and grin, clearly thinking he'd get away with it because I couldn't see him.

I love many sports, English and American. I've enjoyed baseball, basketball, cricket, rugby league. None of these plague my city and my life like football. None fill the streets and trains and stations with people who think I'm less than them because I'm a woman, because I'm disabled, because I have dyed hair, because I'm not one of them.

The city is split in two, but not between red and blue. Between the football fans and the rest of us.

That is very sad to read as a disabled woman myself,give her my best

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Something's got to give eventually.

In spite of much mirth making when he signed, Martial looks like a special talent and Rooney looks increasingly like someone who's been picked out of the crowd to play who's just come off the back of a three day bender. The Frenchman is a much better option to replace, rather than play alongside the Granny Banger.

The pressure from the crowd will mount and mount in the next few weeks.

He looks completely shot.