United thread 2017/18

[Mid Wales blue]

Does Foulaini still play for them.

He’s been out recovering from an operation to replace his elbows with titanium!

 

[TheThirdDeano]

And so it starts, penny for sanchez’s Thoughts!

I suppose he has a small comfort of £400,000 a week regardless of anything but there must be a small nag at the back of his head

 

[razman]

 

[East Level 2]

And so it starts, penny for sanchez’s Thoughts!
I suppose he has a small comfort of £400,000 a week regardless of anything but there must be a small nag at the back of his head

It's a feature of his new hair cut.

 

[doobyedoobye]

He's trying to stay relevant

 

[cheekybids]

I finally got around to reading ‘The Lost Babes’ by Jeff Connor. The evictions of badly injured survivors of Munich is well known but there are plenty of other examples of despicable behaviour toward the victims and their families. It should be borne in mind that Connor is a United fan. This would be such a long post that I’ve split it into two parts. The second part will follow shortly.


1) When Connor approached the club about his planned book he was told by secretary Ken Ramsden that if he wanted to interview any club employee, past or present, he would need to obtain permission from then chief executive Peter Kenyon. All of his many calls and emails to Kenyon went unanswered. Connor went ahead anyway with one of the Munich families saying to him “This is a story that should be told.”


2) On 6 February 2003, the 45th anniversary of the tragedy, he went to Old Trafford and stood with a group of about 30 fans underneath the memorial plaque where they had laid wreaths and flowers. No representative of the club was in attendance and there was no wreath from the club. After the little ceremony Connor went to the Red Café for a bite to eat. When he returned all the wreaths and flowers had been removed.


3) Dennis Viollet was a Munich survivor who joined United in 1949 and played for them until 1962 when he moved to Stoke. In 1959-60 he scored 32 goals in 36 1st division games, a season scoring record that still stands today. In total he scored 179 goals in 293 games. When Viollet was dying of cancer in the US some of his friends asked the club to donate a signed match ball that they could raffle to raise funds for his crippling medical bills. The club refused. Despite his 13 years of service (9 as a first team player) United didn’t give him a testimonial. He only played 5 years at Stoke but they did. Viollet died in March 1999.


4) Jimmy Murphy was Busby’s first and some say best signing who joined United in 1945. His responsibility was to scout and coach young talent and he is often credited with being the real creator of the Busby Babes. His reputation was high enough for coaching offers to be made by Brazil, Arsenal and Juventus but he declined them to stay at United. He wasn’t at Munich because he was also part time manager of Wales who were playing a World Cup qualifier on the night of the Red Star Belgrade match. After Busby retired his title was changed from assistant manager to chief scout and he was gradually marginalised until he was evicted from his office and the club refused to continue paying his taxi and phone bills.


5) When Albert Scanlon arrived back from hospital in Munich the taxi driver who picked him up offered to drive him anywhere he wanted any time at no charge. A month later some dickhead club official, believing the club were paying for the taxi, told him he’d have to stop using it. Busby moved him on to Newcastle but promised he’d be “financially all right” and that he’d fix all the financial things for him. Five years later Scanlon approached Busby outside Old Trafford but Busby blanked him.


6) Jackie Blanchflower suffered horrific injuries at Munich. His right arm was severely fractured and almost severed, his pelvis was crushed and he suffered serious kidney damage which shortened his life. A few months later, despite his wife being heavily pregnant, they were evicted from their club house. As a sop Louis Edwards offered him a job loading meat pies on to his lorries which he declined. The club later cancelled his complimentary season ticket. He died just two weeks after the 40th anniversary benefit match in 1998.


7) Johnny Berry suffered a fractured skull, a broken jaw (which required all his teeth to be removed) a broken pelvis and a broken elbow. He was in a coma for two months and his survival was touch and go. He, his wife and young son were also evicted from their club house and he was fired by letter.


8) In 1986 David Pegg’s sister was shocked to see a large headshot of him as the centrepiece in a glossy newspaper insert advertising the new club museum. When she complained to the club secretary that she hadn’t been asked for permission or even informed about it she was told the club held the copyright of the photo and didn’t have to ask anyone’s permission.




Been a while since I'd last thought about the lads who survived that air crash. United could and absolutely should have done much better by them

SCUM!

 

[goalmole]

L-Equipe are saying he's regretting going back to United and Maureens bumboy Duncan Castles has written an article about how Pogba is telling him he's not using him right

Thanks. I'll get some popcorn in.

 

[waspish]

Scum probably want cash in in him! Moaninho probably realise after watching him he ain’t good enough and if he didn’t buy him he would of been benched most of the season.

 

[Love_Each_Day]

When you see how Guardiola changed De Bruyne's position which actually gave him more defensive responsibility and it made him a better player, I think Mourinho is trying to do the same thing with Pogba. I can see his point because there aren't many 6 foot 3, strong, athletic centre mids with the technical ability of Pogba. Problem is Pogba seems to have no interest in that and just wants a free role.

Toure (who I've seen Pogba compared to a few times) was criticised for not being great defensively and tracking back not being his favourite thing but we won the league twice with him in centre midfield of a 4-4-2 and a less defensive set up to the current United team so I'd say he did enough. Toure also protected himself from having to defend too much by controlling games so well which Pogba doesn't do, preferring hollywood passes

 

[Ancient Citizen]

And so it starts, penny for sanchez’s Thoughts!

I suppose he has a small comfort of £400,000 a week regardless of anything but there must be a small nag at the back of his head

Well, it was always obvious that Sanchez was joining City, then a desperate Rag hierarchy decides they must have
a world class striker.
At any cost.
So his agent, and him, decide another £200,000 a week trumps a PL medal, possibly more medals, a chance to be
coached by the best in the world, and then his decision starts to haunt him, as he's thrown into a side that's
not structured towards his undoubted talent. At this stage, there's no going back, he, like Haircut 100, are stuck
there for the forseeable, destined, at best, to be also rans, with the inevitable embarrassment and loss of
Kudos of being in the permanent shadow of the Manchester team down the road, you pays your money etc;
etc;
Fuck him, and them.