United thread 2017/18

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MillionMilesAway said:
The last bit - I don't think the laws say that.
Attempting to kick an opponent is however a direct freekick offence.
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Here's the rule from the FA's website:

Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.

In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.
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Make of that what you will. He might get away with it on the 'excessive force or brutality' judgement though. Just vague enough that they can apply it however they want.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Here's the rule from the FA's website:



Make of that what you will. He might get away with it on the 'excessive force or brutality' judgement though.
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I agree. Plenty of wriggle room there. The definition of what is excessive force or brutality does vary quite a lot!
Not too much mention of petulance in the laws.
 
Of course it was excessive as there was no need for any kind of kicking action therefore it'a well over the forces expected in the situation. He's banned and there's no way out of it. What I'm expecting is a campaign to say 3 games is too much for the act and then the FA will only give out a 2 game ban. Mouriniho has successful achieved this with Chelsea when Matic (i think it was him) kicked someone in past game.
 
more excessive force than Sergio's elbow.

Still hope he plays. Said before his 75/90 million transfer that at Everton, they play on the counter so he had space to role the last defender. if to tight or use his pace and run at the defence. H reminds me a lot of Bony signing for us, they are no longer playing 1 on 1 with a defender and are playing packed defences and having to rely more on their (limited for a premier league striker) abilities. Although Rashford is the next coming according to the media, his pace up front will cause us more problems than big nose and lumpkaku. That's if he sees the ball. As we saw last season, Zabba tackled him and Martial out of the game.
 
kinkysdribble said:
Dermot Gallagher, ex referee and sky pundit reckons it was an act of petulance rather than violent conduct so therefore unlikely to end in a ban for Lukaku, so by that defence I could smash some one around the head but plead it was an act of petulance "M'Lud"
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To be fair, Sky did report Radovan Karadzic and Saddam Hussein as showing a little petulance on occasions.
 
Surely it’s in our best interest that Lukaku plays in the derby, he has no ability to retain the ball and there key strategy will be counter attack with the ball up to the front man and set plays of course. I for one hope he doesn’t get banned because basically he’s shit
 
I don't want him banned either....even though looking at it he should be....Marshall and Radhford playing off big nose is a bigger threat for me....Lukaku isn't a target man as in hold the ball up and bring others into the game and Mourinho will want to play and be as direct as possible and big konk suits that more than the lump.....so BBC...Sky...the media whoever let them show themselves for the bent twats they are and at the same time weaken the red twats in doing so
 
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