United thread 2018/19

[Henkeman]

Most of the blame is on us for appointing Pep.
The rags panicked and went for Peg.
He was seen as the only option to counter Pep, forgetting he was a very poor fit for the rags.
All other problems stem from that one big mistake.

I'd agree, were it not for the way that these problems pre-date Mourinho to a fair extent. Moyes and Van Gaal were hardly resounding successes either, and the same scattergun approach to player recruitment was in place then too. And having given Mourinho a long term contract, it surely makes sense for him to be able to build the team he wants. They've got a whole bunch of players they spent heavily on that they just don't want. I don't see Woodward suggesting that Blind and Rojo have been integral performers for them for example.

 

[Mallorca Blue]

Chatting with a rag yesterday and he has (along with every other rag he knows) very much come to the same conclusion as ourselves.
They are a commercial juggernaut but almost everything else is a shambles and he freely admitted City are leaving them behind

He even said "If you were a young player with a bright future, why the fuck would you choose united over anyone else!!"

Five years ago I told him what was going to happen and he scoffed and said "never"

So true. It has indeed happened and remember the key word in a rag's DNA is " glory"
Glory because you are winning things and even when you are not winning, glory because the best players want to play for you.
Rags' commercial model depends on a mass hoodwinking operation that "glory" is around the corner. Commercial revenues, sponsorship deals are in danger if millions of glory hunters are disillusioned.
So far, we've been mocking the egocentric, deranged PEG but there are deeper problems.
Glazers are siphoning off 50 mil plus per annum in interest on debt and dividend payments alone. The greedy owners are treating the club as a huge cash cow.
All is okay if you are successful on the pitch because that's what the gloryhunter expects.
What is the point of running around singing "glory glory Man Utd" if you're doing FA on the pitch and becoming a laughing stock off it?
Oh what schadenfreude and malicious glee!!!

 

[TonyM]

I think once the dust settles after this window united will do well enough. Not win the league but do grind out results and win a cup maybe. They’ll have a definite best-11 and a settled subs bench. From the squad and management’s perspective the world will be against them, including their own fans, board and former allies in the media. Its perfect in a way for Mourinho... once he doesn’t throw his own players under the bus too often.

Obviously I hope I’m wrong and the results will be bad enough for it all to crash down around them.

 

[Rolee]

I think once the dust settles after this window united will do well enough. Not win the league but do grind out results and win a cup maybe. They’ll have a definite best-11 and a settled subs bench. From the squad and management’s perspective the world will be against them, including their own fans, board and former allies in the media. Its perfect in a way for Mourinho... once he doesn’t throw his own players under the bus too often.

Obviously I hope I’m wrong and the results will be bad enough for it all to crash down around them.

Unfortunately that's how I see it too.

They will grind and put up a good points tally again. The stick they're getting at the minute plays right into Jose's hands too, he loves a good siege mentality.

 

[Cheesy]

Think it's a good time to remember these pearls of wisdom from Patrick Barclay...

"I can absolutely promise you that nothing will have made Guardiola's heart sink - since his committed himself to Manchester City, and that may have been years rather than months ago - than the news that Jose Mourinho was coming to Manchester. Honestly, he must have felt like ripping up his contract when that happened."

:-D

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Think it's a good time to remember these pearls of wisdom from Patrick Barclay...

"I can absolutely promise you that nothing will have made Guardiola's heart sink - since his committed himself to Manchester City, and that may have been years rather than months ago - than the news that Jose Mourinho was coming to Manchester. Honestly, he must have felt like ripping up his contract when that happened."

:-D

Haven't seen that before, this Barclay twat needs that message sending to him every 10 minutes.

 

[KentBlue]

I think once the dust settles after this window united will do well enough.

I'm not so sure. They have a huge rebuilding job ahead of them. So many of their players want out and Maureen has made the place so poisonous it makes Novichok look like a sherbet fountain.

I think it's going to take years and years for them to even start competing with the likes of us and the Dippers, and they can ill-afford to let us further widen the gap. All the while we are hurtling through the sea at full speed ahead, they are miles behind us, treading water...desperately bailing out and begging to be rescued.

It will take a long time for the 'want-away' players to be replaced, bedded in and ready for the long and arduous season ahead: much the same way as Pep's first season with us.
But the difference is that Pep is an extremely good manager, the rags would need someone far superior to him to even think about rebuilding - and the reality is there is no one out there who can even get close to Pep.
We all know Maureen is outdated, his football (for want of a better word) was old-fashioned in the 60's and 70's: we are now in the 21st century and he is still playing long, hopeful balls to a big target man. It's not just outdated, it's almost bloody prehistoric. Realistically, Maureen is finished. His days in English football are over, for good. The one job he cherished above all else was being in charge at the swamp...and he's fucked that up big time.

The only way forward for the rags now is to recognise that a huge overhaul is needed at the club: manager, staff, players etc, a clean sweep. And back to the drawing board.
A few years in the wilderness will not damage them too much financially, but even if it does curtail their spending a bit, they'd get the one thing they need above all else - stability.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Think it's a good time to remember these pearls of wisdom from Patrick Barclay...

"I can absolutely promise you that nothing will have made Guardiola's heart sink - since his committed himself to Manchester City, and that may have been years rather than months ago - than the news that Jose Mourinho was coming to Manchester. Honestly, he must have felt like ripping up his contract when that happened."

:-D

Not seen so much of him recently, compared to when he seemed to be on TV or radio every day.

Perhaps in the sports journo Dustbin Of The Clueless along with Steve "Phil Jones is the new Duncan Edwards" Curry.

 

[laserblue]

A lot of rags seem to be convinced that when they sack Mourinho all they have to do is click their fingers and Zidane will rush to sign up.

 

[Indaparkside]

COME ON YOU FOXES