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People can laugh but, for my money Allardyce would have done a better job then Moyes/LVG/JM.

He probably would, but that isn't saying much. They could employ Pardew, Hodgson, Pulis, any of the usual suspects - the outcome would be exactly the same because the rags are not very good. They don't have a good team, they don't have a good manager, they don't have good owners, and they don't have a good structure upon which to build for the future. How all this came about can be debated for many years to come, but however it came about is irrelevant, it's here and it's not going away anytime soon.

The rags have been a mid-table club for years and years. Even when the Pisscan was there, people were saying what a fantastic team they were. If they were so good why did they have to rely so heavily on referees to help them out season after season? We all know they would not have been anywhere near as successful as they were had Webb, Clattenburg, Dean etc applied the rules of the game fair and square.
And on top of this, the Murdoch-owned media have been pandering to the plastic masses for so long now that it's nigh on impossible for them to report the truth, even if they wanted to.

It's a bit like those plastic boybands from X factor or something: get a bunch of pretty-boy singers together, employ some professional stylists to dress them, do their hair, make-up etc, employ some professional songwriter whose fortè is 3 minute, cheesy pop songs with a bouncy singalong chorus, package the whole thing together, and then sit back and watch the millions coming in from all the kids and the easily-manipulated youngsters.
Without the huge Simon Cowell propaganda machine behind them, these band members would be stacking shelves or receiving benefits.

Same with the rags. Go a couple of home games without defeat and it's suddenly 'fortress Trafford' instead of 'routine 0-0 bore-fest'. Player scores a couple of tap-ins and he's suddenly 'scoring for fun', instead of being 'fortunate to get a rebound'.


Nobody can hide behind a facade for ever, and that includes the rags. They've been found out for what they've always been, a mid-table club that has been hyped into the stratosphere by lemmings like Custis and his ilk. Sure, they got very very lucky with the formation of the Premier League, the money, the glitz and the celebrity status, and a half-decent manager in the Pisscan, who was both revered and adored in equal measure. But that could so easily have been Aston Villa, Ipswich Town, Derby County etc, instead of the rags.
 
Just seen some gimp on Sky on the verge of tears last night, praying in the crowd, doing the sign of the cross and whispering to himself, kissing his joined hands.
Yeah, mate, that bearded bloke in the sky has wars, starvation and poverty going on all around the world and can't do anything about that but he is going to drop everything to make sure that eleven mugs get a result against a team that is far better than them because them being successful will enable you to continue to believe that it validates your sad existence.

Pathetic stuff, he genuinely was virtually in tears.

Anyone who is religious should be offended.
 
Just seen some gimp on Sky on the verge of tears last night, praying in the crowd, doing the sign of the cross and whispering to himself, kissing his joined hands.
Yeah, mate, that bearded bloke in the sky has wars, starvation and poverty going on all around the world and can't do anything about that but he is going to drop everything to make sure that eleven mugs get a result against a team that is far better than them because them being successful will enable you to continue to believe that it validates your sad existence.

Pathetic stuff, he genuinely was virtually in tears.

Anyone who is religious should be offended.

I was.
 
It makes you think of the Khaldoon interview where he states my job is really easy because I surround myself with the best people to do the job.

While most of us would no doubt agree that Khaldoon does a good job and he's doing himself a bit of a disservice with that comment, he actually makes a very good point and it's surely one of the main reasons why United have struggled so much since Ferguson retired. They simply don't have any "football people" on the board which is criminal for a club of their size and resources. Charlton doesn't count for me because he's not up to speed with the modern game (although to be fair, it looks like he was bang on regarding Mourinho) and Ferguson - before his health scare - is clearly taking a back seat and not having any real say in things. No dount Woowar is great when it comes to securing commercial deals but when it comes to the football side of things he's clueless. Ditto the Glazers. Fucking hell, I'm sure most of us could walk into that club and tell them what they need. It's hardly rocket science but for some reason the powers that be at United can't seem to see it. Long may it continue!
 
Ive just followed the link and been the first to review the book. Cant believe they have actually put it up, have a look.


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The delicious thing about all the angst over at OT and amongst the rag hoards is that everything is amplified because City under Pep are so fucking good !

Centurions !!!!
 
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writings? thought it was a video
 
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