United thread 2018/19

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Pigeonho said:
They’re mentioned just randomly now at what a shambles they are. In contrast, we are mentioned as the bar to aim for. Roles reversed 100% in every way, shape and form within 10 tiny years. We are now who they were.
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We are never like they were - in the past 25 years.

They were Arrogant
They were ‘the United way’

They were wrong.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
He wont "go gentle into that good night"unless the suitcase waiting for him in The Lowery are Crammed to bursting with every last penny he can get from them.
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Myself I love the guy
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JASR said:
We are never like they were - in the past 25 years.

They were Arrogant
They were ‘the United way’

They were wrong.
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Arrogance was their Achilles heel, they thought that just by being Manchester United they would maintain the status quo in English football. They mocked us when the Sheikh took over, no top players would want to play for us even with all the money they would get paid apparently. ‘Not in my lifetime’ the ramblings of a scared Fergie who knew what was coming and got out early before we could completely crush him into the ground.

They haven’t adjusted to the challenge and are being swallowed up by the clubs who have. Wolves will be finishing higher than this shower in the coming seasons as they have a plan. The rags don’t.
 
JASR said:
Potential scenario

Getting kicked out of CL early, not doing well in EL
Missing out on CL ( and EL) for 19/20
No cup runs
Reduced PL TV games this year
Massive wages bill
Many players into last year of contracts, wanting parity/increases
Massively increased previous transfer payments still owed
Manager sacking payoff
Commercial revenue growth stalled
Match day income further declined
no nvestment in club infrastructure
Dividends still shipped to Virgin/cayman Islands

Leeds/Portsmouth ? Or too big to fail...
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Good summary of potential scenario which is close to being the actual scenario.

The worst result for them this week was not West Ham but their virtual zero revenue growth. This is in stark contrast to City, Liverpool and Spurs who have or will soon post huge increases.
The possible fallout from finishing outside the top 4 this season must be giving Woodward and Glazers nightmares. It could amount to more than 100 mil revenue loss if you cost in CL prize money, gate receipts, reduced sponsorship money, drop in merchandising and the associated spin-offs.

Don't think they will go into liquidation but a major downsizing would occur. I think the big question is how much funding would the Glazers be prepared to sanction in the event of the above scenario. Share prices are already plummeting.
 
doobyedoobye said:
I reckon he has enough support throughout the club's hierarchy to last the season
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I see it as a game of Russian roulette. He and the Hierarchy want him to leave but the 1st to blink loses. So both will play their part in this crazy game till one or the other or both are ready to swallow their pride. I`m sure United want a none disclosure agreement but will have to pay for it.


I do love a good drama
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I think they’re reaching the stage where they can’t afford to not sack him.
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I think you're right.

It'll be cheaper to sack him than miss out on CL qualification, reduced merchandising etc.

Whether a firm decision has already been taken or whether Peg will be given a month more to "turn it round" is not certain.

If I had to guess, a decision has already been made to fire him. But the question of when and his replacement may not be resolved but I'm sure of one thing: When there's every likelihood of the club not finishing in top 4, these decisions will be taken and rapidly.
 
Mallorca Blue said:
I think you're right.

It'll be cheaper to sack him than miss out on CL qualification, reduced merchandising etc.

Whether a firm decision has already been taken or whether Peg will be given a month more to "turn it round" is not certain.

If I had to guess, a decision has already been made to fire him. But the question of when and his replacement may not be resolved but I'm sure of one thing: When there's every likelihood of the club not finishing in top 4, these decisions will be taken and rapidly.
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Might make a big decent in their growth next year either way.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
I see it as a game of Russian roulette. He and the Hierarchy want him to leave but the 1st to blink loses. So both will play their part in this crazy game till one or the other or both are ready to swallow their pride. I`m sure United want a none disclosure agreement but will have to pay for it.


I do love a good drama
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I like Jose, I think he will walk away hating the rags just as much as we all do. Except the lucky bastard gets paid for it.
 
Mallorca Blue said:
Don't think they will go into liquidation but a major downsizing would occur. I think the big question is how much funding would the Glazers be prepared to sanction in the event of the above scenario. Share prices are already plummeting.
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Not so much ‘prepared to’ but ‘capable of’. I suspect they don’t have the extraneous means to support such an undertaking. Stadium naming rights will be a consideration for them, and they’ve always got the get out of jail card of disposal, but as things stand I can’t see any rebuilding being funded outside the Ponzi-scheme that is united’s finances (which won’t prove as easy as hitherto).
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not so much ‘prepared to’ but ‘capable of’. I suspect they don’t have the extraneous means to support such an undertaking. Stadium naming rights will be a consideration for them, and they’ve always got the get out of jail card of disposal, but as things stand I can’t see any rebuilding being funded outside the Ponzi-scheme that is united’s finances (which won’t prove as easy as hitherto).
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Yes. In fact the major revenue earner for their franchise has always been MUFC. It's been the cash cow for the enterprise.
 
Have to say, their tactics yesterday were terrible. McTominay in a back three? Zero pressing? Please, oh please, line up like that against us.

Other thing that struck me, watching MotD, was the fact that not one of them gave a rats arse about putting in a shift or had the self belief that they could beat a mid-table side. This rift is affecting them from board room to boot room. Lovely.
 
Had a fuckin' belly laugh at Jonathon Pierce of Motd after that MANUre corner - the one along the ground - straight to a Wiiiiiist Hiiiiiim player. He said something along the lines of "Goodness, this is Manchester United we're talking about!" I thought dead right Johnny - it is MANUre and these days that's what they are like - shite on a stick!
 
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