United thread 2019/20

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kippaxwarrior said:
Too big to fail? Just like

Kodak
General Motors
Toys R Us
Pan Am
Blockbuster

All huge companies who dominated their markets, rested on their laurels thinking they were too big to fail, failed to innovate and adapt to the change in their markets and failed to keep up with newer companies which entered the market and existing companies which did adapt to change. All those companies then started to throw money about just to keep up and all of they eventually failed and went under

Sounds familiar?
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Absolutely correct. Said it before -- the fall of Manchester United will make an excellent case study at Harvard Business School some day.

There may be a clue in their failures in the very advice their former manager gave those very same HBS students (oh, the height of irony) when he described "complete control" as a key management tenet of his. He wanted it and the "we don't know dick about football" ownership was only to happy to give it to him . . . but as owners often do, they were determined to regain that control when he left.

The thing is, he did everything. No one does everything any more, and no ownership group would allow for that anyhow.

And when autocratic megalomaniacs leave organizations, if they were great leaders they rarely care about what happens after. If they succeed, they can take credit for building the foundation. If they fail, they can shrug and say the failure is because they aren't there.

Best thing that could possibly happen would be for the Glazers to sell.
 
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roxy said:
I don’t think they’ve ever spent 2 consecutive seasons out of the CL so if they get knocked out this season and don’t finish top 4, that’ll likely hit them in the pocket in a number of ways. They’ve got a big wage bill so they’d either have to carry on paying that with less income or cut it down a fair bit, which means getting rid of higher paid players. As these are generally the better ones, that could see them slip down the table. If they were to miss out on Europe altogether they could really struggle. Any decent players leave, they lose ticket money, tv and presumably commercial income. They might even hit a point where they’re struggling to pay the interest on their debt and the money they pay the Glazers. We had to sell SWP when we were in that position & that could happen to them. So they slip further down the league and the Glazers try to sell but no one wants the train wreck they’ve created. Eventually they end up like Bolton.

We can dream.
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In order to shed these top earners, those players would probably have to take a pay cut as other teams aren’t stupid enough to pay the salaries that the rags do. Which players, in their right mind, would voluntarily reduce their wages?

Either that or the rags will have to subsidise the pay of these players to offload them, as has been rumoured is the situation with the mercenary.

Also, the players they want to retain are holding them to ransom with their wage demands in their contract negotiations, as seems to be the case with the alpaca and consequently rags are receiving salaries far beyond what their ability justifies. £195k/week for Rashford is absurd.

Paying the pianist as much as they do, in order to, as they thought at the time, get one over on Manchester City, is going to prove a very expensive mistake in the course of the next few years.
 
From what I’ve seen in their past 3 games I don’t think that they’ll lose that many games but I think they’ll draw quite a few. They seem to have an energy that wasn’t there under Mourinho. But they don’t have enough match winners either.

Let’s say ...
Wins: 16
Draws: 16
Losses: 6
Points: 48+16=64 (6th?)
 
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