United thread 2019/20

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Do you remember when players would crawl over broken glass to play for United?

Those day’s have long gone.

But go on Red Cafe and United fans are still linking the club with some of the best available players in the World.

They don’t get it. Or refuse to accept it, point blank.

Yes, United will always be one of the biggest clubs in the World. And will always have 1 of the biggest supports.

But that staturealone is no longer enough to attract players.

It’s over.
 
You're right on the club policy of increasing turnover being the priority, Woodward has pretty much said this himself.
Problem is Pogshit was bought with this in mind,now if they go and sell him who in that team is a shirt seller,a few of them should be but in the club shop.
Things are going downhill for them at a faster rate than any of us probably felt was possible.
Hence no comments about JLingz and his crew from OT. Need someone to replace Pogba clicks.

Ronay's Guardian article final paragraph says it all...
"There is no sense of any hunger for a proper plan while the business thrums on. In the meantime the past will continue to cloud the future. The clubs leading the way will continue to become more effective machines. And Manchester United will continue to linger in its own timeline, clanking shut the doors on the DeLorean, cramming the furnace with coal, creaking out across the prairie once again in pursuit of the year 1985."

Taking the Dippers crown of the 'istree men into the 20s and 30s.
 
As good as any banner....

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Not been over to Ragcafe for a while, thought I'd take a peek.....

Absolute weaponised fanboy nonsense to suggest that the corrupt, cheating, sportswashing UAE £billions blood money project is on par with or somehow a symptom or reflection of the overall state of the game.

Yes the legitimate top four (excluding oilmoney Chelsea of course), now top five, have had too much financial advantage over the rest of the league. But when considering the traditional clubs such as United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have earned their advantage through hard work and succeeding on the pitch, it is ridiculously disingenuous to claim that the barbaric UAE project at City is just a symptom, a mere distraction from the reality of this structural but legitimately resulting, financial competitive disparity.

The Etihad project is the toy thing of the murderous, human rights abusing regime of the UAE.
The financial advantage gained legitimately by United, Arsenal, Liverpool, over other clubs is indeed a result of legitimate competition, both on and off the pitch and has absolutely nothing to do with the stain on our beautiful game that is the sheikh Mansour's,artificially inflated, financial fair play cheating, book cooking blood money project.

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No they didn't. Don't know why you refuse to let this sink in... United - John Henry Davies, Liverpool - The Moores family/football pools... I could go on but its pretty easy to find this stuff out yourself. Arsenal literally bribed their way into the league and were constantly criticized for excessive spending to make themselves relevant but whatever... It's not the result of legitimate anything, its getting a massive hand up very long ago (not so long ago in Liverpool's case) thats never spoken about. Was it not for JHD Old Trafford wouldn't be near what it is and United probably wouldn't exist... It's pretty much literally nothing to do with success on the pitch nor has it ever been.

The way you jump into posts so aggressively whilst knowing nothing of your own club is funny. Maybe read a book or even google your clubs history. Also given your hatred of all thinks barbaric, Saudi Telecom and the commercial bank of Qatar are fine legitimate sponsors... not to mention Gulf Oil Middle East right? Or is it ok to take their money, just not ok to be owned by them?

You do though my friend need to take something for all that anger. Your posts are dripping with it. It's ok, no need to worry, you'll be back at the top sooner or later.

He came back with...

And you my confused friend display your weaponised ignorance and blind loyalty in your lying defence of the illegitimate project of the UAE human rights abuser's and slaughterers of innocent Yemeni children.

It was easy for the oppressive regime to weaponise you lot due to your decades of abject failure to succeed legitimately and your proximity to a real successful club.

And yes of course there is a distinct ethical and structural difference between the project at the Etihad being actually designed, manufactured and owned by the UAE (mass murderers of Yemeni children, systemic abusers of migrant populations, torturers of the LGBT community and 'disappearers' of pro democracy advocates) and the financial dealings of true independent clubs, though I would rather EUFA ban Abudhabi, Qatar and Saudi as sponsors of our legit clubs too.

As for your blatant lies that United's success is not legitimate and has nothing to do with winning on the pitch, you should be ashamed of yourself. A grown man, spending hours and hours of your life, reinventing history and lying on a rival fans forum in order to defend the human rights abusers of an oppressive gulf state who cheat our rules to buy glory for their barbaric regime.


And....

The mass murder of Yemeni children by your owners is real,their systemic sexual abuse of vulnerable migrant female domestic workers is real, their imprisonment and disappearance of pro democracy advocates is true, their punishment of the lgbt+ community is real.

You really think you're being clever by using the word 'bingo' in a puerile and shameless attempt to undermine the very real concerns that Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and any grown up with a sense of ethical responsibility hold regarding Abudhabi and the £billion+, sports washing project.

As for financial disparity I have already noted that. Mansour's Etihad blood money project is not a symptom of that financial disparity. The disparity is the result of footballing and legitimate commercial success whereas the stain on our game that is the human rights abuser's £billion cheating project is neither the result of footballing nor historical football club commercial success.

As for Thunderhead's apology for the UAE's ongoing slaughter of innocents in Yemen by the classic but impotent 'whataboutery' of finger pointing at others, (what other club is owned by a mass murdering, military invasive state?), is this not just another point in case that proves that the embittered fans of City have completely discarded any ethical considerations once the murderers and human rights abusers buy our trophies in their name.



The guy who posted this DevilAgeIdiot, he joined ragcafe in May this year, 50 posts, the vast majority about City.

The guy is a shill, he's an agenda merchant pretending to be an enraged man on the street rag.
So the yanks never invaded anywhere?
They have rescinded the death penalty?
No subjugation of the indigenous peoples?
Etc....
 
Not been over to Ragcafe for a while, thought I'd take a peek.....

Absolute weaponised fanboy nonsense to suggest that the corrupt, cheating, sportswashing UAE £billions blood money project is on par with or somehow a symptom or reflection of the overall state of the game.

Yes the legitimate top four (excluding oilmoney Chelsea of course), now top five, have had too much financial advantage over the rest of the league. But when considering the traditional clubs such as United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have earned their advantage through hard work and succeeding on the pitch, it is ridiculously disingenuous to claim that the barbaric UAE project at City is just a symptom, a mere distraction from the reality of this structural but legitimately resulting, financial competitive disparity.

The Etihad project is the toy thing of the murderous, human rights abusing regime of the UAE.
The financial advantage gained legitimately by United, Arsenal, Liverpool, over other clubs is indeed a result of legitimate competition, both on and off the pitch and has absolutely nothing to do with the stain on our beautiful game that is the sheikh Mansour's,artificially inflated, financial fair play cheating, book cooking blood money project.

Reply....

No they didn't. Don't know why you refuse to let this sink in... United - John Henry Davies, Liverpool - The Moores family/football pools... I could go on but its pretty easy to find this stuff out yourself. Arsenal literally bribed their way into the league and were constantly criticized for excessive spending to make themselves relevant but whatever... It's not the result of legitimate anything, its getting a massive hand up very long ago (not so long ago in Liverpool's case) thats never spoken about. Was it not for JHD Old Trafford wouldn't be near what it is and United probably wouldn't exist... It's pretty much literally nothing to do with success on the pitch nor has it ever been.

The way you jump into posts so aggressively whilst knowing nothing of your own club is funny. Maybe read a book or even google your clubs history. Also given your hatred of all thinks barbaric, Saudi Telecom and the commercial bank of Qatar are fine legitimate sponsors... not to mention Gulf Oil Middle East right? Or is it ok to take their money, just not ok to be owned by them?

You do though my friend need to take something for all that anger. Your posts are dripping with it. It's ok, no need to worry, you'll be back at the top sooner or later.

He came back with...

And you my confused friend display your weaponised ignorance and blind loyalty in your lying defence of the illegitimate project of the UAE human rights abuser's and slaughterers of innocent Yemeni children.

It was easy for the oppressive regime to weaponise you lot due to your decades of abject failure to succeed legitimately and your proximity to a real successful club.

And yes of course there is a distinct ethical and structural difference between the project at the Etihad being actually designed, manufactured and owned by the UAE (mass murderers of Yemeni children, systemic abusers of migrant populations, torturers of the LGBT community and 'disappearers' of pro democracy advocates) and the financial dealings of true independent clubs, though I would rather EUFA ban Abudhabi, Qatar and Saudi as sponsors of our legit clubs too.

As for your blatant lies that United's success is not legitimate and has nothing to do with winning on the pitch, you should be ashamed of yourself. A grown man, spending hours and hours of your life, reinventing history and lying on a rival fans forum in order to defend the human rights abusers of an oppressive gulf state who cheat our rules to buy glory for their barbaric regime.


And....

The mass murder of Yemeni children by your owners is real,their systemic sexual abuse of vulnerable migrant female domestic workers is real, their imprisonment and disappearance of pro democracy advocates is true, their punishment of the lgbt+ community is real.

You really think you're being clever by using the word 'bingo' in a puerile and shameless attempt to undermine the very real concerns that Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and any grown up with a sense of ethical responsibility hold regarding Abudhabi and the £billion+, sports washing project.

As for financial disparity I have already noted that. Mansour's Etihad blood money project is not a symptom of that financial disparity. The disparity is the result of footballing and legitimate commercial success whereas the stain on our game that is the human rights abuser's £billion cheating project is neither the result of footballing nor historical football club commercial success.

As for Thunderhead's apology for the UAE's ongoing slaughter of innocents in Yemen by the classic but impotent 'whataboutery' of finger pointing at others, (what other club is owned by a mass murdering, military invasive state?), is this not just another point in case that proves that the embittered fans of City have completely discarded any ethical considerations once the murderers and human rights abusers buy our trophies in their name.



The guy who posted this DevilAgeIdiot, he joined ragcafe in May this year, 50 posts, the vast majority about City.

The guy is a shill, he's an agenda merchant pretending to be an enraged man on the street rag.

If Sheikh Mansour represents the entire UAE, then the Glazers represent the USA - the country responsible for killing 70,000 Japanese civilians in under a minute in 1945.

Plus, City helped United avoid extinction last time I looked. A fact very conveniently swerved in this prick's rant.
 
Not been over to Ragcafe for a while, thought I'd take a peek.....

Absolute weaponised fanboy nonsense to suggest that the corrupt, cheating, sportswashing UAE £billions blood money project is on par with or somehow a symptom or reflection of the overall state of the game.

Yes the legitimate top four (excluding oilmoney Chelsea of course), now top five, have had too much financial advantage over the rest of the league. But when considering the traditional clubs such as United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs have earned their advantage through hard work and succeeding on the pitch, it is ridiculously disingenuous to claim that the barbaric UAE project at City is just a symptom, a mere distraction from the reality of this structural but legitimately resulting, financial competitive disparity.

The Etihad project is the toy thing of the murderous, human rights abusing regime of the UAE.
The financial advantage gained legitimately by United, Arsenal, Liverpool, over other clubs is indeed a result of legitimate competition, both on and off the pitch and has absolutely nothing to do with the stain on our beautiful game that is the sheikh Mansour's,artificially inflated, financial fair play cheating, book cooking blood money project.

Reply....

No they didn't. Don't know why you refuse to let this sink in... United - John Henry Davies, Liverpool - The Moores family/football pools... I could go on but its pretty easy to find this stuff out yourself. Arsenal literally bribed their way into the league and were constantly criticized for excessive spending to make themselves relevant but whatever... It's not the result of legitimate anything, its getting a massive hand up very long ago (not so long ago in Liverpool's case) thats never spoken about. Was it not for JHD Old Trafford wouldn't be near what it is and United probably wouldn't exist... It's pretty much literally nothing to do with success on the pitch nor has it ever been.

The way you jump into posts so aggressively whilst knowing nothing of your own club is funny. Maybe read a book or even google your clubs history. Also given your hatred of all thinks barbaric, Saudi Telecom and the commercial bank of Qatar are fine legitimate sponsors... not to mention Gulf Oil Middle East right? Or is it ok to take their money, just not ok to be owned by them?

You do though my friend need to take something for all that anger. Your posts are dripping with it. It's ok, no need to worry, you'll be back at the top sooner or later.

He came back with...

And you my confused friend display your weaponised ignorance and blind loyalty in your lying defence of the illegitimate project of the UAE human rights abuser's and slaughterers of innocent Yemeni children.

It was easy for the oppressive regime to weaponise you lot due to your decades of abject failure to succeed legitimately and your proximity to a real successful club.

And yes of course there is a distinct ethical and structural difference between the project at the Etihad being actually designed, manufactured and owned by the UAE (mass murderers of Yemeni children, systemic abusers of migrant populations, torturers of the LGBT community and 'disappearers' of pro democracy advocates) and the financial dealings of true independent clubs, though I would rather EUFA ban Abudhabi, Qatar and Saudi as sponsors of our legit clubs too.

As for your blatant lies that United's success is not legitimate and has nothing to do with winning on the pitch, you should be ashamed of yourself. A grown man, spending hours and hours of your life, reinventing history and lying on a rival fans forum in order to defend the human rights abusers of an oppressive gulf state who cheat our rules to buy glory for their barbaric regime.


And....

The mass murder of Yemeni children by your owners is real,their systemic sexual abuse of vulnerable migrant female domestic workers is real, their imprisonment and disappearance of pro democracy advocates is true, their punishment of the lgbt+ community is real.

You really think you're being clever by using the word 'bingo' in a puerile and shameless attempt to undermine the very real concerns that Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and any grown up with a sense of ethical responsibility hold regarding Abudhabi and the £billion+, sports washing project.

As for financial disparity I have already noted that. Mansour's Etihad blood money project is not a symptom of that financial disparity. The disparity is the result of footballing and legitimate commercial success whereas the stain on our game that is the human rights abuser's £billion cheating project is neither the result of footballing nor historical football club commercial success.

As for Thunderhead's apology for the UAE's ongoing slaughter of innocents in Yemen by the classic but impotent 'whataboutery' of finger pointing at others, (what other club is owned by a mass murdering, military invasive state?), is this not just another point in case that proves that the embittered fans of City have completely discarded any ethical considerations once the murderers and human rights abusers buy our trophies in their name.


The guy who posted this DevilAgeIdiot, he joined ragcafe in May this year, 50 posts, the vast majority about City.

The guy is a shill, he's an agenda merchant pretending to be an enraged man on the street rag.

That's Ewan MacKenna or the like masquerading as a Rag. Might actually be a Rag, Miguel Delaney style of rhetoric.
 
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