United thread 2020/21

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mat said:
It is.

But no one has the balls to produce it and tell it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fuckers tried taking anyone to court who would.

To me anyone that made a doc that destroyed the myths of that club would probably become very rich from fans of other clubs buying it.

Throw in the charity game and what Cuntona fleeced the families and it would bury the cunts "brand"
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bluethrunthru said:
By the start of next season they won't have been involved at all with the ESL proposals and that group who got into the ground the other week will have been just there to give a quote for fixing the roof and doing some decorating
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Yeah, and they had to have a shit in the centre circle 'cos they couldn't find the toilets.
 
Tried to down load the bits that John Giles wrote

basically they couldn’t wait to severe ties with the family and the players Jackie Blanchflower was cut out of getting any money ........ wives and family members including there greatest players mother (Duncan edwards) never received a thing ..........if I could download the paragraphs I would but he basically said they did nothing till a long time after and let’s be right this club must have been making a lot of money before they did do something about it ............he even went on about Busby saying that they should be getting more money but couldn’t do a thing because of the capped wage structure....... once that was scrapped Busby soon changed his tune ..........still this was a colder time I suppose :( I read about the Burnden Park disaster and my god that just horrific :(
 
The rags must have some big influence in the British press for the way any negative story about them is swept under the carpet, like a malignant network of inside agents ensuring certain evidence is never in the public domain.
Nothing else can explain why sections of our press are seemingly hell-bent on portraying that club as a footballing Waltons family when the reality is they are more like the Manson family.

Because of the Pisscan's arrogance and greed, the Glazers were able to take over the club and saddle it with such a phenomenal amount of debt that they will probably always be paying it off for the rest of their existence - and yet the media stayed silent on all the negative issues surrounding the purchase. The tabloids heralded the arrival of the Glazers like the beginning of a new dawn for the club: money to spend, trophies to collect along the way, exhilarating football, megastar signings to put both Real and Barca to shame...but both the S*n and the Mirror have been strangely subdued regarding the way it has thus far turned out.
The exorbitant fees the rags have paid out to stay relevant have been staggeringly over-the-top, but it's only us and the Chavs that are constantly being pilloried by the media because of our spending.


The disgusting behaviour of that club after the Munich tragedy has been almost criminally ignored by the press in this country for decades, and there has to be some sinister reason for that, I'm sure.
 
Bantamgaz said:
Tried to down load the bits that John Giles wrote

basically they couldn’t wait to severe ties with the family and the players Jackie Blanchflower was cut out of getting any money ........ wives and family members including there greatest players mother (Duncan edwards) never received a thing ..........if I could download the paragraphs I would but he basically said they did nothing till a long time after and let’s be right this club must have been making a lot of money before they did do something about it ............he even went on about Busby saying that they should be getting more money but couldn’t do a thing because of the capped wage structure....... once that was scrapped Busby soon changed his tune ..........still this was a colder time I suppose :( I read about the Burnden Park disaster and my god that just horrific :(
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'The lost babes' is another must read book that shows what a horrible shower of cunts they really are
 
The pictures from their 'protest' really reminded me of Coldwar Steve, so...

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KentBlue said:
The rags must have some big influence in the British press for the way any negative story about them is swept under the carpet, like a malignant network of inside agents ensuring certain evidence is never in the public domain.
Nothing else can explain why sections of our press are seemingly hell-bent on portraying that club as a footballing Waltons family when the reality is they are more like the Manson family.

Because of the Pisscan's arrogance and greed, the Glazers were able to take over the club and saddle it with such a phenomenal amount of debt that they will probably always be paying it off for the rest of their existence - and yet the media stayed silent on all the negative issues surrounding the purchase. The tabloids heralded the arrival of the Glazers like the beginning of a new dawn for the club: money to spend, trophies to collect along the way, exhilarating football, megastar signings to put both Real and Barca to shame...but both the S*n and the Mirror have been strangely subdued regarding the way it has thus far turned out.
The exorbitant fees the rags have paid out to stay relevant have been staggeringly over-the-top, but it's only us and the Chavs that are constantly being pilloried by the media because of our spending.


The disgusting behaviour of that club after the Munich tragedy has been almost criminally ignored by the press in this country for decades, and there has to be some sinister reason for that, I'm sure.
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I've always said there must be a creative genius on bluemoon who could write a screenplay based on the true events whereby an ex footballer having being in tragedy ( train, bus, plane with the club), cannot play again. From a position of everything going for him, he hits rock bottom, loses his wife, home, begs the club for help but they refuse... Great story that would finally expose the club to the world and its own supporters who live in ignorance
 
BlueSkinz said:
Correct me if I'm wrong here Col but I'm sure united were using their Cayman Island 'bank account' pre-Glazers. Pre-internet even?
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Doubt it. When the Glazers floated the club on the NYSE, they incorporated the ultimate holding company in the Caymans. As far as i'm aware that's the first time they were associated publicly with the place.
 
KentBlue said:
The rags must have some big influence in the British press for the way any negative story about them is swept under the carpet, like a malignant network of inside agents ensuring certain evidence is never in the public domain.
Nothing else can explain why sections of our press are seemingly hell-bent on portraying that club as a footballing Waltons family when the reality is they are more like the Manson family.

Because of the Pisscan's arrogance and greed, the Glazers were able to take over the club and saddle it with such a phenomenal amount of debt that they will probably always be paying it off for the rest of their existence - and yet the media stayed silent on all the negative issues surrounding the purchase. The tabloids heralded the arrival of the Glazers like the beginning of a new dawn for the club: money to spend, trophies to collect along the way, exhilarating football, megastar signings to put both Real and Barca to shame...but both the S*n and the Mirror have been strangely subdued regarding the way it has thus far turned out.
The exorbitant fees the rags have paid out to stay relevant have been staggeringly over-the-top, but it's only us and the Chavs that are constantly being pilloried by the media because of our spending.


The disgusting behaviour of that club after the Munich tragedy has been almost criminally ignored by the press in this country for decades, and there has to be some sinister reason for that, I'm sure.
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So much is forgotten about and ignored about that football club.

They’re portrayed as if they’ve always been this big club, but they were the junior club of Manchester until the 1950s. They had average attendances in the 1930s of 11,000 and 13,000 with many individual attendances of around 3-4,000 (3,969 v Boro and 3,507 v Southampton in 1931, for example).
But get onto a conversation with Rags about attendances and someone will always pipe up with “Mansfield Auto Windscreens”, and the media will come out with stories about that from time-to-time (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-ago-losing-tomansfield-auto-windscreens/amp/) but have you ever heard the media mention United’s little attendances they used to get in the First Division? No, they’re always talked about as if they’ve always been massive.

They were such a small club that they pleaded with City to oppose the application from Manchester Central to join the Football League, which happened at around the same time as United were dicing with relegation to the Third Division in 1934… at the same time City were getting to two consecutive FA Cup finals, building towards winning the First Division title in 1937, and banging out multiple 75,000+ attendances (including our 84,569 against Stoke).
Again, is any of this ever brought up by the media? I don’t think I’ve ever heard this mentioned.

They've pretty much gone bust twice. If it weren’t for wealthy businessmen - John Henry Davies (and three others) in 1902, and James W Gibson in 1931 - there would be no Manchester United.
Do you ever hear anyone ever say how they were so poorly run and had no fans that they were nearly wound up, not once, but twice? Or if it wasn’t for big investment and sugar daddies, United wouldn’t exist? Or any pundits or journalists ever bring that into the conversation when talking about “Abu Dhabi” “oil money” investment? No. In fact, it’s talked about as if United have always got their money “the proper way” (whatever that means!).

Do you ever hear United, or anyone else, credit City with helping out United?
United were allowed first-dibs on City’s banned main stars Billy Meredith, Sandy Turnbull, Herbert Burgess, and Jimmy Bannister; which saw them win their first trophies. If it weren’t for City’s players, United’s first ever trophies wouldn’t have come until Matt Busby went to United in the 1940s.
[As mentioned] City helped United oppose Manchester Central from entering the Football League… right at the time United were at their lowest ever point, a club with a buzz about them in the amateur leagues coming along would have seen the end of United.
Old Trafford couldn’t be used after bombing by the Luftwaffe, so City allowed United to play at Maine Road. City had just been relegated and United promoted. Just ten years after United were getting their worst ever attendances, City fans went along to Maine Road to watch United as the First Division club. These, to this day, are United’s biggest ever attendances (81,962 v Arsenal in 1948) and were supplemented massively by City fans (around this very time City got 69,463 attending a Second Division game). Those gate receipts and size of crowds will have helped them massively achieve what they did in those early years under Busby.
Ever heard a Rag, a pundit, or a journo mention these things though?

Has United’s treatment of the Munich Air Disaster survivors, widows, and families ever been aired by the media? Like someone else mentioned above, the Third Reich is mentioned at length in the historical record; lots of negatives coming out about the British Empire, over the last few decades; the majority of journalists out there fall over themselves to come out with negative angles about “Abu Dhabi”… lots is said about the Munich Air Disaster, the Busby Babes, the tragedy of the lives lost, but I can’t recall anything ever being mentioned about how United stopped payments to survivors and families? ended help for travel for injured players who had to retire? kicking survivors and families out of homes? Or fastforward to the 1990s with Cantona refusing to play in the Munich Memorial game unless he was paid and United paying him from funds that were supposed to be for the survivors and families of the Disaster, yet again shitting on them?
Well, of course not, Cantona is a fan favourite and United can’t be portrayed as dick heads in the media.

Do you ever hear about United fans singing about the Aberfan tragedy in a game against Cardiff? Do you ever hear about United fans killing Middlesbrough fans at Ayresome Park in 1980 when they surged and caused a wall to bulge and a fence to collapse killing the people below? Do you ever hear about United fans murdering a Crystal Palace fan by repeatedly stabbing him and smashing his head with a brick, at the 1995 FA Cup semifinal?
No. But they’re quick to chant “murderers” at Liverpool fans aren’t they? The fucking hypocrites!

So much is forgotten and ignored about that stinking club to ensure the myth of them always being a big club who always do everything the right way is upheld in the public domain.
 
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