United Thread - 2021/22

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Well, it’s hardly up hill for him at the moment
He had a blistering start to his career, united were out of striker's so they put him in no pressure and he did really well, he was going to be the "new" best thing, but every player will find their level, he hasn't found his yet, but he will, and it won't come with England caps
 
On Sunday the contrast with City was stark and in the second half was exposed as clearly as possible for the football world to see. It has been growing, however, for the last 14 years. I remember clearly the open letter from Sheikh Mansour stating his intention to create a self-sustaining club which could compete with Europe's best. He envisaged a period of heavy investment followed by self generated growth and despite the efforts of UEFA it has worked tremendously well. This never meant that the Sheikh would throw money at the club for ten years, hope for the best and then see if we were any good in 2018. The club had a series of performance indicators for the next 3 months, 6 months, 12 months etc to see the plan was still on track and take appropriate action if necessary. The best people to put these measures in place were identified and it soon became clear that the intention was to attract Pep Guardiola to the club, which they did. This was because everything was done to make City a club Pep would want to work at. We could add more detail but the point is that this is City's plan, it involves every aspect of the club, it's now in its 14th year, has been refined and extended and it's still going strong.

United don't have a plan and this is of long standing too. Taken by surprise by SAF's retirement they appointed managers one after another without any idea of continuity or strategy. They first of all ran the squad down and refused to spend (a policy endorsed by SAF) and then, when they were in clear difficulty began spending wildly, almost kamikaze spending! This was not a plan but a comfort to fans. And now they talk about "getting United back where they belong". This is actually not a plan but an aspiration. And we are not told but rather led to assume that this is back to the glory days of the GPC. In fact, those days were the result of a set of unbelievably favourable and fortunate circumstances, never to be repeated.

This is the reality behind the statements that United are light years behind. What they need is a plan for every aspect of the club but what they have is no plan at all. This season's derbies are the result. Looking at things as they are the chasm will grow and United will be luck to keep their grip on a place in the top 5 or 6. They need to make the first important decision - that Manchester United is a football club and not a soap opera.
The voice of reason.Well said my friend.
 
On Sunday the contrast with City was stark and in the second half was exposed as clearly as possible for the football world to see. It has been growing, however, for the last 14 years. I remember clearly the open letter from Sheikh Mansour stating his intention to create a self-sustaining club which could compete with Europe's best. He envisaged a period of heavy investment followed by self generated growth and despite the efforts of UEFA it has worked tremendously well. This never meant that the Sheikh would throw money at the club for ten years, hope for the best and then see if we were any good in 2018. The club had a series of performance indicators for the next 3 months, 6 months, 12 months etc to see the plan was still on track and take appropriate action if necessary. The best people to put these measures in place were identified and it soon became clear that the intention was to attract Pep Guardiola to the club, which they did. This was because everything was done to make City a club Pep would want to work at. We could add more detail but the point is that this is City's plan, it involves every aspect of the club, it's now in its 14th year, has been refined and extended and it's still going strong.

United don't have a plan and this is of long standing too. Taken by surprise by SAF's retirement they appointed managers one after another without any idea of continuity or strategy. They first of all ran the squad down and refused to spend (a policy endorsed by SAF) and then, when they were in clear difficulty began spending wildly, almost kamikaze spending! This was not a plan but a comfort to fans. And now they talk about "getting United back where they belong". This is actually not a plan but an aspiration. And we are not told but rather led to assume that this is back to the glory days of the GPC. In fact, those days were the result of a set of unbelievably favourable and fortunate circumstances, never to be repeated.

This is the reality behind the statements that United are light years behind. What they need is a plan for every aspect of the club but what they have is no plan at all. This season's derbies are the result. Looking at things as they are the chasm will grow and United will be luck to keep their grip on a place in the top 5 or 6. They need to make the first important decision - that Manchester United is a football club and not a soap opera.
problem with that is a real rebuild would mean most likely dropping out of the top 4 and losing the money tree, so they throw money at it and hope they keep champions league
 
Bizarrely, in McTominays interview after we battered them, he was wittering on about how 'we need to focus now and win the Champions League'....

As abjectly shit as they are, were that somehow to happen, I think it would be the actual end of days.

If the rags somehow wins Champions League this season, i will never consider that cup as major throphy ever again.

The think that your need to be lucky enough to win that cup makes me furious if that ever happen.
 
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