United Thread - 2021/22

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wolviedinho said:
This is why you can’t take anything Neville or carragher debate on sky seriously. Gary blows with the wind. He talks about united with blind loyalty due to the financial rewards he received from the club.

Last season united we’re going to win the league and now 8/9 months later 10 players needs sold. Where is the accountability? It’s all nonsense. I used to respect his opinion but as ushited(my phone autocorrected from united lol) got worse he started to get more cult like with his opinions. He then had the audacity to go after MCFC and associate our owners with the Russians. He is a sneaky bastard. Don’t pay any attention to the ****.

United made this appointment the right way is what I am hearing lol. Yea they called up van der sour and played the buddy act for him to give the go ahead to release Ten to deflect the negativity surrounding the club.

Shit club and will continue to be shit. Know your place and bow down to the blue kings of Manchester.
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I think I see where you went wrong.

"I used to respect his opinion"
 
i say if you want to play like klopp or pep then go and sign one of them. but that's not going to happen ?
also do you think any of the so-called elite clubs take him as their manager ??
 
The most bizarre take on all this ten Hag stuff is that he comes from a rich family and his father and brother are millionaires, so he won't have the same pressure. Firstly, how fucking old is he? He isn't a teenager being supported by his family. Secondly, aren't all managers millionaires? I can just imagine Mourinho and van Gaal thinking "God, I hope I don't screw this up, or I will have to sleep on the street again ....". Who writes this stuff?
 
SIIUUUUUUUU said:
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I understand all the banter, but truth be said, he's the only manager on upward trajectory available.
There are no Pep's or Kloop waiting somewhere for us to sign him thus you take a gamble for the future.

My ideal manager would have been Hansi Flick but he's not available.
So we've our own Bald fraudster .

The biggest problem we have is Team Spirit. Just through the eye ball test.
How has team spirit plummet this much now, and why does it swing up down every 3 years?

The easiest way to solve this puzzle is to check the meaning of team spirit, what it entails and how do you build team spirit.

I've tried to outline the basic things one can do to lifting team spirit

1. Articulate and operate within a core set of values.

2. Provide clear direction and a sense of purpose. Money motivates; it doesn’t inspire. The desire to be the best is driven from the inside, not the outside.

3. Make trust-building a top priority. It is the foundation of high-performing teams. Trust is built by being reliable, open, straightforward, and accepting.

4. Value the contribution of each player. Loyalty is earned by caring about not only the performance, but also the person.

5. Build on strengths; manage weakness. Put people in positions where they play best and minimize where they are vulnerable.

6. Listen to, acknowledge, and celebrate each player early and often.

If we are honest United is lacking on all the points.

1. We do not have a core playing culture or values. Pep & Kloop do have it. You know how City will play or how Liverpool will play. Players are signed using this metrics.

2. We lack direction and purpose. Liverpool & City are result oriented. United is commercial, marketing signings etc.

3. How do you build trust when the last permanent manager we've had was Mourinho signed in 2016. Ole was a interim who got to permanent manager through emotions. It's not a coincidence Pep & Kloop are top of the longest serving managers in the league. Trust is build through time, honesty and truthfulness. United we lack this.

4. How does United give loyalty when you know even if you play badly you will still be in the team or still earn your millions. How is loyalty rewarded when older players are signed to take place for younger players. They take even your shirt number. Contracts reward mechanisms etc. In Liverpool & City nobody is in the team not for his work result.

5. United even do not have a strength weakness analysis, why because the players are not signed with this in mind. Henderson is not the most talented midfielder but he does the job for Liverpool to his strength. Benardo Silva is not the strongest midfielder but Pep uses him to his strength. United even do know who has which strength as everything is skewed.

6. United have never been listening to other voices. The powers to be did not want to relinquish power to outsiders. In United Ed Woodward was the bigger figure than the manager. In Liverpool or City we know Pep & Kloop more than the Directors of Footballs or CEOs.

It's now United have started to listen and it's now I think they are working on the points above to create a team spirit that is sustainable and efficient in it's work.

Liverpool sold Countiho, Gigi
City let go of Aguero, Silva, Kompany and still the team spirit is at its highest.
United have 6 players leaving the team this summers, plus another 5 players who do not play or add any value on the team. We lack the 14-15 core players which every team has.

So with Ten Hag coming United will fulfill 2 point above immediately

Number 1... Having a core values, playing plan.
Number 6... Listening, if Ralf was not around we would have signed Poch so the corridors of power are listening to outsiders now.

The rest of the points is what now Ten Hag has to create, we can only hope it will work out. The board has to commit to support him in building a team spirit which is necessary for success.

At least now we hope derby games will be competitive and compelling.
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I hope you cunts get relegated, fuck United.
 
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