United Thread - 2021/22

[Blue Mist]

I'm playing in a league with £2560 in the pot. Ill pick the players I think have the best chance of scoring points regardless of who they play for.

Mercenary.

You and your fantasy rags go well together :-)

 

[Blootoof]

I laught so hard by reading comments.

Some good ones in there

 

[Nihilist]

I'd agree with a lot of this, but given how poorly they play as a team it's almost impossible to even fairly judge individual players. Pogba in a 3 with good coaching and a system is entirely different to Pogba at United (see Juve or France). I suspect on a purely technical level there isn't actually much that separates Stones and Maguire, but the former looks like he is working hard, still learning and still improving where Maguire looks like his best years are behind him. Some of that is down to the player, but some of that is down to manager, coaches, players around them, facilities and everything else.

I think even with the best manager, though, their overall squad is really confusing and unbalanced and haven't really been signed with a coherent plan. They're playing a 4-2-3-1 which is giving up the whole of the midfield, and is a piece of piss to defend against, in order to squeeze Pogba, Ronaldo and Fernandes into the team.

Maguire on the same level as Stones ? Odd thing to say , really , and i'm certain that i'm not being biased here.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

If the rumours are true that Ole isn't taking training is it any wonder they don't know what they're doing?

Someone called McCenna? Or something takes the training,, he's one of peg's leftovers so a rag was telling me.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Maguire on the same level as Stones ? Odd thing to say , really , and i'm certain that i'm not being biased here.

I'm not saying that they're on the same level, Stones is currently a better defender in a better team, but I don't think there's a world of difference in their natural ability. The rest is better coaching, better training, and being surrounded by better players in a better system. Put another way, if we'd signed Maguire 3 years ago instead of Stones, and you had Maguire in our team and Stones in that United side, would you be saying that it was obvious Stones was the better player? Do you think Stones would have helped take them to a league title? Do you think we would be unable to win the league with a well-coached Maguire in a team that always had a passing option for him?

 

[Impeccable One]

I'm playing in a league with £2560 in the pot. Ill pick the players I think have the best chance of scoring points regardless of who they play for.

Where’s that DISLIKE button ?

 

[Nihilist]

I'm not saying that they're on the same level, Stones is currently a better defender in a better team, but I don't think there's a world of difference in their natural ability. The rest is better coaching, better training, and being surrounded by better players in a better system. Put another way, if we'd signed Maguire 3 years ago instead of Stones, and you had Maguire in our team and Stones in that United side, would you be saying that it was obvious Stones was the better player? Do you think Stones would have helped take them to a league title? Do you think we would be unable to win the league with a well-coached Maguire in a team that always had a passing option for him?

I mean Ake plays for us and I think he's not better than Maguire. Stones in my opinion is def better than Maguire, in fact I wouldnt take Maguire over any of Dias, Stones and Laporte.
If I were to take players from the rags I would probably take Cavani and Shaw if he goes on a diet.

 

[Ted_Bovis]

Having his tits waxed.

Amended for accuracy.

 

[Ted_Bovis]

When is sancho going to make his debut?

The rags are allowed 2 debuts. It’s a new definition they brought in with Ronny.

 

[Gingers Dad]

I'd agree with a lot of this, but given how poorly they play as a team it's almost impossible to even fairly judge individual players. Pogba in a 3 with good coaching and a system is entirely different to Pogba at United (see Juve or France). I suspect on a purely technical level there isn't actually much that separates Stones and Maguire, but the former looks like he is working hard, still learning and still improving where Maguire looks like his best years are behind him. Some of that is down to the player, but some of that is down to manager, coaches, players around them, facilities and everything else.

I think even with the best manager, though, their overall squad is really confusing and unbalanced and haven't really been signed with a coherent plan. They're playing a 4-2-3-1 which is giving up the whole of the midfield, and is a piece of piss to defend against, in order to squeeze Pogba, Ronaldo and Fernandes into the team.

Stones is on a totally different level now

International football and the Italian league is so much slower than the Premier league you can't compare. Pogba gets pressed and eased off the ball all the time in the PL

Fernández is a myth and when the fck did he get to deserve first name only status?