United Thread - 2021/22

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SebastianBlue said:
The broadcasters didn’t show the VAR offside check on my feed, but apparently did elsewhere.

Here is the frame that appears to show right when the ball leaves Martial’s boot (if not still slightly early). Cavani may be just offside; if the ball hasn’t quite left Martial’s boot than Cavani is definitely offside, as the West Ham defenders was stepping up.




Here is an earlier frame when the ball is still on Martial’s boot that VAR apparently chose to use to deem Cavani onside.




The Fergie fix is in, as always.

Infuriatingly obvious enough for me to come on and post about it.
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his left shoulder looks off on that bottom picture
 
For years running it's been no secret that the United Manager seems to have not had the final say in matters - or so it seems to me.

As a result, United signed talented players who weren't necessarily known for their work rate.

Now, United is filled with a bunch of lazy (but very talented) players who don't want to press or try too hard to win games.

Enter Rangnick - a very capable manager inheriting a talented but unmotivated side. Into the mix - Rangnick is an interim manager. What ensues - the all-too-predictable, lazy, can't be bothered to enter into a hard challenge, performance from almost everyone on the field.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
For years running it's been no secret that the United Manager seems to have not had the final say in matters - or so it seems to me.

As a result, United signed talented players who weren't necessarily known for their work rate.

Now, United is filled with a bunch of lazy (but very talented) players who don't want to press or try too hard to win games.

Enter Rangnick - a very capable manager inheriting a talented but unmotivated side. Into the mix - Rangnick is an interim manager. What ensues - the all-too-predictable, lazy, can't be bothered to enter into a hard challenge, performance from almost everyone on the field.
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Having said that, it's worth mentioning that Solskjaer inherited a similar situation and actually did really well with it for the first half season.
 
SebastianBlue said:
The broadcasters didn’t show the VAR offside check on my feed, but apparently did elsewhere.

Here is the frame that appears to show right when the ball leaves Martial’s boot (if not still slightly early). Cavani may be just offside; if the ball hasn’t quite left Martial’s boot than Cavani is definitely offside, as the West Ham defenders was stepping up.




Here is an earlier frame when the ball is still on Martial’s boot that VAR apparently chose to use to deem Cavani onside.




The Fergie fix is in, as always.

Infuriatingly obvious enough for me to come on and post about it.
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I always think that sort of tight call should either go to the attacker, or just go with the on field decision. Otherwise you end up with this situation where they can basically make it onside or offside purely on which frame they choose.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Having said that, it's worth mentioning that Solskjaer inherited a similar situation and actually did really well with it for the first half season.
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Yeah - luck? Motivation that ran out once players figured out that they could get away without trying? Who knows...

Until United sort out their ownership-management-scouting mess, they're screwed. They'll pay top to remain in contention but squander their investment due to lack of player motivation.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
I always think that sort of tight call should either go to the attacker, or just go with the on field decision. Otherwise you end up with this situation where they can basically make it onside or offside purely on which frame they choose.
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Completely agree, VAR should not be used to just disallow good goals, however that policy needs to be applied for EVERYONE.
 
If a team as piss-poor as the Rags can be 4th, maybe the EPL is not as good as people make out. Maybe the teams from 5th-20th should stop whining about City, consider their own dire management and lack of ambition, and reflect on the fact that they are all among the richest clubs in Europe - and thus effectively the world. Maybe they should stop taking money out for shareholders and start investing in their product.
 
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