United Thread - 2023/24

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FogBlueInSanFran said:
WHAT???? NOOOOOOOOO. YOU'VE GOTTA BE KIDDING ME? SERIOUSLY? NO TOP FOUR?

The effectively epic cluelessness of this entire organiz(s)ation stands as a monument to the vagaries of arrogance and laurel-resting. The case studies written about the collapse of this once mighty footballing institution will sit on shelves and be studied for decades.

City may be a generational success, but United -- mark my words -- will be discussed as a generational failure.

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Source: Man Utd staff fear top-four spot is at risk

Man United staff have concerns about finishing in the top four this season, a source has told ESPN, after the team's disappointing start to the campaign.
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I'd be astounded if they make top four

I think us, the dippers and arsenal are nailed on. Spurs look like they could get in the top 4, especially if they strengthen a bit more in January.

Villa are no mugs, I reckon they could finish top 6 along with Newcastle, maybe one of them could get top 4. Brighton will be in around the top six or seven if they can sort their defence out a bit.

So I think they should be more concerned about finishing in the top six than the top four. There's at least 6 or 7 sides that look much better than the rags.
 
Crooked_rain said:
I'd be astounded if they make top four

I think us, the dippers and arsenal are nailed on. Spurs look like they could get in the top 4, especially if they strengthen a bit more in January.

Villa are no mugs, I reckon they could finish top 6 along with Newcastle, maybe one of them could get top 4. Brighton will be in around the top six or seven if they can sort their defence out a bit.

So I think they should be more concerned about finishing in the top six than the top four. There's at least 6 or 7 sides that look much better than the rags.
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They have literally no fucking prayer of top 4. I mean NONE. City have a better chance of not making top 4 than the rags do making it. I was absolutely mystified by those who predicted they'd be top 4 this season.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
They have literally no fucking prayer of top 4. I mean NONE. City have a better chance of not making top 4 than the rags do making it. I was absolutely mystified by those who predicted they'd be top 4 this season.
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It's not a surprise prediction - the big teams always rise to the top places by the end of the season.

United have only finished outside the top 6 once since the Premier League started (when Moyes was 7th), and have finished top 4 in three of the last four seasons. In the last 17 years, 67 of the 68 CL places have gone to the usual big six teams.

They may miss out on the top 4, but I don't think I'd be betting on them definitely not making.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
The same as it ever was, their arrogance is their downfall.

The day they stop trotting out complete sophistry like “That’s okay for some small team but this is Manchester United Football Club” they might start to get somewhere.

They lose constantly because they think they have a god-given right to win. But it requires guile, humility, hard work and attitude to be successful. Of which they have precious little.

Neville is right in one sense, the rot is deep. But he’s yet to realise that he is part of it.
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Well said. I was just coming on here to say similar.
 
ShorehamCitizen said:
Yep, just like Usain Bolt if he retired before those last two races, in which he didn't win the 100m and pulled up in the relay race.

Legend has it, that when Mancini denied him the league in 2012, he stayed on for another year so he could end his career on a league title.

Clever old bastard indeed.
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I’ve said this before; if Agüeroooooooooo! didn’t happen, the pisscan would have retired in 2012
 
Crooked_rain said:
Ferguson was no mug, he knew what was in store for united and got out to preserve his legacy. The league was about way too competitive for his liking and he knew City were going to be the best of the lot, so he bolted.

Smart old bastard if you ask me. United would've struggled with or without him in thr coming years and he knew it, and now his legacy is even greater because he knew he had to bow out. Had he stayed, his final years would've been like Wenger.
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I think this is a much more accurate depiction of what happened rather than any deliberate covert scorched earth policy by him (which has previously been suggested in some quarters on here). He knew his legacy would have been tarnished if he’d stayed (although tbf he was in his seventies when he went).

I think if he’d been given the following three scenarios in 2013:

1. Leave and the club continues in a similar vein and your legacy is intact
2. Leave and the club declines and your legacy is undermined and eventually tarnished
3. Stay on and your dominance comes to an end and your legacy is tarnished


He’d have picked them in that order. I don’t accept he wanted united to fail after he left, because that would serve to undermine what he’d (subjectively) achieved in the last few years, and if it went on for long enough, brings into question what he achieved overall, which has now undoubtedly happened, at least to anyone applying intellectual honesty to the situation.

The silence around RoG in the media is deafening.

He saw what was coming and got out, not because he wanted things to go south, but because he thought they would.

To that extent, he definitely got out at the right time.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
He plays shite most of the time. So I guess it's pretty easy.

Fwiw I've always found him very dislikeable, even before he was beating his girlfriend up. Looks like a drug dealer to me.
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yes, definitely looks like the track tracksuit wearing, tattoo's done with Crayola by a 4 year old with ADHD, sketchy shit **** selling meth and spice by the skips round the back of KFC
 
Now I know if you finish 3rd in your CL group, you go into the knockout stages of the Europa League, but if you finish bottom of your CL group, do you go into the knockout stages of the Conference League?

Asking for a *chuckle* friend.
 
Crooked_rain said:
It was funny when sky kept mentioning Haaland and Hojlund in the same sentence like it was some competition.

The only thing they have in common is they're big Scandinavian lads with blonde hair. One of them is the best goalscorer in world football and the other hasn't scored goal in the league yet.
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The Viking vs Rasmus Birtles
 
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TinFoilHat said:
The famous cycling drug pusher which Matthew Syed gets a touch on for.

Wonder what attract them to him?
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Banter aside for a second, Brailsford revolutionised British cycling and to call him a drugs pusher is really unfair.

He’s being brought in because he’s the Team Ineos coach of course and has worked with Ratcliffe for a number of years.


But none of that makes him the right man to oversee a football club…!
 
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