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Chris-NCL said:
I know this might not go down well with the majority of you being Manchester based, but here’s my perspective from someone who lives nowhere near Manchester, but still in the North.

When the Commonwealth stadium was built, and you guys took ownership of it, Manchester was in a different place to what it is 22 years later to now. Manchester needed regeneration, and no private company saw money in it to go it alone, so the government had to kick start it.
Right now though Manchester is the Northern London, and although it may not officially be the case, it is both Englands and the UK’s 2nd city now.
Companies are lining up to invest in Manchester, you have skyscrapers etc all being built with private funds, companies moved skilled jobs to the city.
With your stadium, and the new Coop venue, alongside the existing arena, you have massive concerts etc being hosted in Manchester. You’re airport is massively successful and sucks up passengers from not only the North West, but the Midlands, and all the way up into Scotland.
Without being provocative, from the opinion of everyone else in the North, the money for the North by the government for the last 20 years or so has went to Manchester with ministers saying ‘Look we invested in the North’.

For all intends purposes, Manchester doesn’t need government intervention to build a few hotels, some apartment complexes, and a couple of office buildings that will make it attractive for Man Utd to build a new 100k seater fuck off stadium.
The richest clubs figures came out a few days ago and Manchester United are still one of the richest clubs not only in the country, but the world. The land they want to build on is owned by millionaires and billionaires, they have the money to kick start it if they want to. I’m going to say this last bit bluntly as well. If none of it never got built, Manchester as a city isn’t missing out. Tourists will still come to your city to watch both Man Utd and you. Large scale events will still be held in Manchester, jobs will still be created, private companies will still be lining up for available land such as around Old Trafford to build their new offices and apartment complexes.

We (Newcastle United) are about to announce what we are doing with our stadium in the next few months. Will the government be providing funding so we can build a fan park, hotels, and apartments on club land adjacent to SJP?
I doubt it.
Meanwhile half a mile away from SJP an overpass in Gateshead has been forced to close before Christmas. We don’t have the money to demolish it, the government won’t give us emergency funding, and the council has tried and failed on 2 separate occasions in recent years to gain funding from central government. This is a key route from Gateshead into Newcastle, which leads over the Tyne bridge, which is awaiting it’s final amount of money it requires to complete it’s refurbishment, 5 years after it should have been given.
Another bridge across the Tyne is going the same way as the overpass in Gateshead, and that needs funding to deal with that.
The historic High level railway bridge is going to have to be rebuilt in the next few years, there is no funding for that.
Our Metro system still needs its final allocation of funding approved so it can complete its renewal process to keep our Metro system running, 15-20 years after it should have been given. This is just in the Tyneside area, every area outside Greater Manchester, and London will have similar lists of stories.
It would be a complete shambles if Manchester gets government funding so Taylor Swift can perform a concert at Old Trafford instead of the Etihad.
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My Mum (God rest her soul) was a Sand Dancer and I lived Boldon (Colliery as it was then) for a couple of years. Because we operate a binary political system and Labour have been so woeful, we’ve had to endure decades of Conservative government. I vaguely recall the boundary changes in the 70’s that reduced Lancashire to nothing as punishment from Conservatives for being part of the red wall. In truth, the whole of the North has been shafted in various ways by various governments of both parties.

As Jim Royle might say, Northern Powerhouse my arse.

You’ve got Vera though so not sure what you’ve got to moan about. ;-)
 
Mark Goldbridge just went “pah-pah-pah-pah-pah!!” in reaction to the goal.

You’re still a shit mid-table FA Cup loving bunch of scumbuckets.

Europa League loving bunch of scumbags too. The nickname Red Devils comes from Rugby League too would you believe, not the sport they play.
 
Blue2112 said:
They hate the Scousers so much, so much more than us that they've not stopped singing about us for the first 10 minutes of the Fulham game. Never hear them singing about Liverpool unless they're playing them but don't forget they prefer us to win the league before the Scousers cos they hate them so much more than they hate us.
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I heard 5 mins of, "we all hate Leeds"

Which is a bit weird, because Leeds have not been a rival since the 1970's, and maybe for one season in the 90's. So why are lads in their 20's singing that?

I also heard.

"Just like the Glazers, Jim Ratcliffe's a ****."

Charming, for putting his own cash into a failing club.
 
9th Brighton 10th Fulham 11th Brentford 12th Scum 13th Palace 14th West ham

Now what does £1billion of squad building get you again, Always fucking moaning about City's spending
Well results, Titles and Silverware in City hand, What about the hand united are holding, go on show us your cards

Also, Fuck Off about it's not your money
 
BillCarlisle said:
As many other Bluemooners will already be aware, I'm a born & bred Manc. Having lived up here in Cumbria for the past 35 yrs I'm also well up to speed with the points you have made about the NE as we get the same BBC regional news as you lot. You're absolutely right about the lack of government investment over there in Geordieland. It's a fecking disgrace TBH and all this talk about "northern powerhouse" is mostly flannel IMHO. Over here in Carlisle the city has had to fight tooth and nail for whatever funding it gets - mostly scraps in comparison though. In the meantime, a mega-rich businessman who is domiciled outside the UK in order to avoid paying tax is seriously suggesting that a new stadium for his partly owned business based in Stretford should be paid for by the Taxpayer. Its completely ridiculous. That lot should be left to stew in their own self-made mess and not get a penny of assistance from the public purse.
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The Government aren't paying for a new stadium. I wish people would read the statements properly. They are allowing planning permission for the development, and assisting with infrastructure. Roads and Rail.

Are they doing this because they are all secret rags?

No. Scruffy Jim & the Glazers are offering up all the land, that they already own, for housing. This is a sizeable area that stretches from Salford Quays roundabout, all the way up to the Lowry bridge. This is wharf side property, and it is in high demand for development, as we have seen on the Salford Quays side with all the developments around the BBC/ITV studios. If they built homes on it, they can claim a double whammy, firstly in meeting their housing quota and secondly in providing new jobs. The Trafford side of the old docks is currently just single storey warehouses, rented out by the Glazers.

The government won't put a penny into building the homes, it will all be private investors. But Burnham and co will take the glory because they rubber stamped it.

The Stadium is the trade off, but they can also claim a win from construction jobs and then this night-time economy that scruffy Jim is banging on about. All these homes will need shops, bars and restaurants.

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Citi-leaks said:
The Government aren't paying for a new stadium. I wish people would read the statements properly. They are allowing planning permission for the development, and assisting with infrastructure. Roads and Rail.

Are they doing this because they are all secret rags?

No. Scruffy Jim & the Glazers are offering up all the land, that they already own, for housing. This is a sizeable area that stretches from Salford Quays roundabout, all the way up to the Lowry bridge. This is wharf side property, and it is in high demand for development, as we have seen on the Salford Quays side with all the developments around the BBC/ITV studios. If they built homes on it, they can claim a double whammy, firstly in meeting their housing quota and secondly in providing new jobs. The Trafford side of the old docks is currently just single storey warehouses, rented out by the Glazers.

The government won't put a penny into building the homes, it will all be private investors. But Burnham and co will take the glory because they rubber stamped it.

The Stadium is the trade off, but they can also claim a win from construction jobs and then this night-time economy that scruffy Jim is banging on about. All these homes will need shops, bars and restaurants.

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Looks like a model for a ghetto.
 
Citi-leaks said:
Nah, it will be media types working over in media city, who have been pricing out locals in Monton, Eccles and Worsley for the last 10 years. Because they sold their London pad for £££££££ and now they are flush with cash.
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Hopefully it won’t make “Man United Great Again”.
 
Citi-leaks said:
The Government aren't paying for a new stadium. I wish people would read the statements properly. They are allowing planning permission for the development, and assisting with infrastructure. Roads and Rail.

Are they doing this because they are all secret rags?

No. Scruffy Jim & the Glazers are offering up all the land, that they already own, for housing. This is a sizeable area that stretches from Salford Quays roundabout, all the way up to the Lowry bridge. This is wharf side property, and it is in high demand for development, as we have seen on the Salford Quays side with all the developments around the BBC/ITV studios. If they built homes on it, they can claim a double whammy, firstly in meeting their housing quota and secondly in providing new jobs. The Trafford side of the old docks is currently just single storey warehouses, rented out by the Glazers.

The government won't put a penny into building the homes, it will all be private investors. But Burnham and co will take the glory because they rubber stamped it.

The Stadium is the trade off, but they can also claim a win from construction jobs and then this night-time economy that scruffy Jim is banging on about. All these homes will need shops, bars and restaurants.

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I don't have any issue with this because it will create thousands of jobs in Greater Manchester and generate a huge amount of investment. Competition between both major clubs in Greater Manchester will help everyone. My only problem is that the Government must also do something to improve transport infrastructure round the Etihad Campus. The Old Trafford area is already well-served for trams and trains while we have a shambles on our side of town.
 
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