United Thread | 2024/25

[Bigg Bigg Blue]

 

[waspish]

As a Trafford resident I can tell you. Currently the roads and transport system cannot cope with the 50,000- 75,000 fans that attend so there is no chance with 100k.
When the rags got planning permission to increase the gpc stand it was on the condition they did a Park and Ride from Carrington. It lasted 2 matches and was abandoned with no one in the council giving a shit. The M60 junction at Stretford is a nightmare on match days. The Traffordd Centre (free car parking) exit is the same.

It's the infrastructure of the whole of Manchester which need upgrading even at ours there is queues for the trams and they can't put anymore on they are at full capacity! Oh Man City paid for all that tram stop!

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

Just thinking about something Ratcliffe mentioned the other they would have run out of money by Christmas,yes I know they’ll get the money for the stadium through the banks but surely alarm bells would be ringing going by his statement..

Not exactly a good credit risk, are they? The old lending pneumonic of CAMPARI is very relevant here - C = Character, A = Ability to repay.
A business with perceived cashflow issues is not a safe bet, but I bet lenders will be falling over themselves to get involved with this pipe dream

 

[Vienna_70]

I think that’s all everybody on here wanted to hear.

 

[flb]

I think that’s all everybody on here wanted to hear.

Just enforces the probability that this is one big PSR dodge by united, lets be clear, they're going to use these "plans" to their advantage. Its all there in plain sight, unlike Liverpool's, that by all accounts was drawn on the back of a fag packet.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Lets see how the roads and public transport cope with 100,000 people?

Bloody stupid if they get permission to build a stadium of that size.

I am dreading it when our new stand eventually opens.

Old Trafford already has good transport links. But we have been shafted at the Etihad. Just one tram line and not enough buses.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I don't think for one minute that this stadium will ever get built, nothing more than a ruse to write off £100 million of losses ala them scouse cunts.

Or a ruse for the Glazers to get the share price up before they sell up.

 

[gazinho]

Just stuck SSN on in the background working from home and they've got that daft woman Reddy doing an interview basically fluffing Amorim, they're on a full blown media push this week arent they? Strangely timed this media assault to be just after the 'protest' on Sunday isnt it :)

Still the fucking idiots will lap it up and forget all about their yellow and green scarves for a few weeks until they've lost 5 on the bounce again.

Scum

Edit:

Fuck me its still going on she's just referred to hojlund as an immensely talented young player, he's fucking shit

 

[tommybooth]

Does she have subtitles on.

 

[Sky Blue]

Fuck me its still going on she's just referred to hojlund as an immensely talented young player, he's fucking shit

If she has an outbreak of spots within the next month.

We know what's going on there.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I think that’s all everybody on here wanted to hear.

Not sure if he's telling the truth though. I don't trust him .

 

[RodneyRodney]

I’d love to take the piss but it’s actually quite sad for football just how awful the whole thing is.

Just like Spurs new stadium that everyone raves about, it’s not a football stadium, it’s a multi events stadium this time with identikit shit bars and food places selling overpriced shite surrounding it catering for thousands who will visit once.

Just like Wembley, just like the outside of our new North Stand will be. Just like America.

At least our gaff still resembles a football ground.

I’m conflicted every time I walk up to SS3 lamenting how shit and basic the interior is and how cramped the concourse is but at least it feels like going to a traditional football match.

I feel for my cousin, a match going red who’s a good guy, walking down their Wembley way, surrounded by bars selling £9.50 pints of Brooklyn Lager in a plastic pot and £16.50 meal deals of a hot dog and chips, using an app that has all your details on to enter the bowl before taking a 6 minute ride on the escalators to the 5th level and row AAA to watch ants play football surrounded by people who spend the majority of the game filming for their content.

...perhaps we could get Eric Idle to do an appraisal of the "match day experience" when(if) it (finally) opens (...gotta get Watneys Red Barrel and Campbells Mushroom Soup into it somehow....)

 

[RodneyRodney]

I wondered that. How much would it cost to upgrade the current dump and throw a tent over it? 4-500 million? That they could possibly afford without bankrupting themselves.

They've already just about bankrupted themselves without even fixing the roof.

 

[RodneyRodney]

Olga Kleb

Rosa

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Have can a club be running out of money in 9 months time yet still pass ffp ?

Because FFP is backwards looking and only looks at net profit, not at cashflow and future cash requirements. Poor cashflow and a consequent inability to settle liabilities is what kills companies, not the fact they made losses 2 and 3 years ago.

I've been saying for a while that they're in danger of running out of cash. Had Ratcliffe's £200m not gone in this financial year they'd probably have run out now.

 

[bridgeno1]

Enough from these parasites. I'm hearing public money will be used for the new stadium. Sorry but when my club moved from Highbury to the Emirates not only did we have to pay for it entirely ourselves but we also had to pay for the transport infrastructure to be put in place. As a Gooner there is no way I'm going to be happy to have my tax money spent on the Rags. This is like a bank bail out.

If the public purse is used then the revenues generated should also go back to the public purse and not used to subsidise a club that doesn't know how to live within its means. Ratcliffe saying United would be bankrupt by November - what a load of crap. If that was the case why the hell did you allow United to spend all that money on players in the summer then - clearly you'd have seen the accounts during the acquisition process and certainly once you had your foot in the door.

Piss off united you scrounging twats.

 

[Bozo]

Saying it now - this will not be built in 10 years' time.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It's not as dramatic as the headline sounds. It just meant that they had immediate cash flow problems in yet another glorious display of them being inadequately managed from top to bottom.

Had they ran out It would have just meant they'd have had to look at a short term loan to tidy them over until the end of the season when the bulk of income comes in and that would have meant more outgoings from interest payments on that loan.

I could be mistaken here but I've a vague recollection of them having to do just that a few years back?

They're sadly not in any danger, it's just a scare tactic from Jim to excuse his penny pinching antics.

I disagree. They have a revolving credit facility of £300m which is meant to smooth out peaks and troughs. They've come close to exhausting that a couple of times as they're regularly using it to prop up inadequate cashflow because they're paying out more than they're getting in.

Yes, they could probably take on more debt but they are definitely in trouble and potentially in danger. If they have to pay a £200m transfer instalment and don't have the cash, they'd have to borrow it or go into administration.

 

[malg]

Fuck me its still going on she's just referred to hojlund as an immensely talented young player, he's fucking shit

It's all media hype. Some silly Villa fan phoned Talkshite last night to say Rashford is back to his best - mentioned him as a goalscoring talent. I'm sure if you put the cunts goalscoring record in front of this tube he'd probably think it was fake news.

 

[malg]

as the media are hyping RAGS have interest (??) from sponsors, stadium naming rights etc but none of that money will flow until a stadium is built.

I'll guarantee someone will back it before it's built. Don't underestimate the amount of hype around this build. You could sell naming rights right now. A big company would pay good money to have their name on this on every article - they could sell naming rights to stands as well. You can see it now on the BBC, Sky Sports, The Grauniad, The Wall Street Journal, The Shanghai Daily News:

The AT&T Stadium will begin the foundation work in April 2026 and the first stand 'The Smiths Are Shit South Stand' will be started in July 2026 followed by 'The Elon to Mars Stand', then 'The Findus Fish Fingers Stand' and lastly 'The Morocco Why Did You Steal Our Design Stand'.

This stuff writes itself. They'll sell everything.