United Thread | 2025/26

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This is how bad they have become, that losing but playing half way decent is seen as an upward trend, lets put some perspective on this supposed upward trend, in their last six games they have won 2 of them, one a credible win against palace even tho they were absolutely battered in the 1st half and palace gassed out and against wolves who city under 8s would currently beat, the other games were a 1-0 loss at home to a 10 man everton, a 1-1 draw at home to a bottom three west ham, a 4-4 draw at home to a bournemouth team who hadnt won in the last 6 and who at weekend drew with burnley at home and a 2-1 loss to a villa team who put in their worst performance of the season.

So if this is what constitutes an upward trajectory let it continue.
 
Drew at home to AFB who hadn't won in 2 months and hadn't won away since August.
Drew at home to West Ham who are awful.
Lost at home to Everton who had 10 players for the vast majority of the match.
Lost to Aston Villa.
Beat Wolves...

Stop falling for the United propaganda machine. That is a dreadful run of results.
 
Dobsy said:
They've just had a decent run of fixtures and came across Liverpool at the time they were in that dramatic dip in form they had. I'm not convinced they've even improved on last season. The league is unusually tight. Yes they're 3 points off top 4 but they're also 6 points off 15th.
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They have a squad of sub standard players. They are still declining because they are not even playing in Europe. Newcastle will destroy them on Boxing Day and the narrative will change again. Can’t wait till we play them. Hate United love Amorim… not forgetting Agent Berrada
 
youngbob said:
They are on an upward trend imo. Don't think they win a title under Amorim but they can finish top 4-6 this season and go deep in the cups again from next season. Think once Amorim has another summer under his belt they could be regular top 4-6 finishers once more, which isn't exactly what they want but it's on the way to their ideal destination.

Since those comments Ratcliffe made about giving Amorim three years no matter how much people might want him sacked, in all competitions they've P11 W5 D4 L2. In that time they've gone away to Liverpool (W), Spurs (D), Palace (W), and Villa (L). Things could be improved but Amorim has definitely stopped the rot and steadied the ship for the time being.

Lammens
De Ligt Maguire Shaw
Diallo [new CM] Fernandes Dalot
Cunha Mbeumo Mount

There is something in that system. Casemiro and Ugarte are nowhere near mobile enough to do the job Amorim wants, which is why they're still a work in progress, and Mount can't really be trusted to stay fit for more than 2-3 months at a time. But they are building a decent squad with decent options from the bench. No threat to us yet, but it's improving.
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Probably get a like off @Falcao
 
flook said:
You're getting pelters obviously, but for what its worth I agree with you to a point.

In fairness to Amorin he's stuck to his guns, MBuemo and Cunha were signings which improved them, and Ratboy2, despite his whinging, is not a bad player. They're improving, they're starting to understand the system Amorin wants, however where we disagree is how close they are to being a team capable of sustained challenge for top 4. I reckon 3-4 years at best.

The defence is still poor, midfield is nowhere near where they need to be, both issues which wont be fixed in 1 or 2 windows, and they still don't have a keeper worthy of the name
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Name me one player that has improved at the swamp that they have bought? Mbuemo and Cunha will also be bang average come next season, if their not already.
 
Big Yaya Wilko 12 said:
I’m negative as anyone and always worst case scenario when it comes to thinking the rags will be back…

But my god, if that’s an upward trend long May it continue. They’re absolutely fucking shit and will be lucky to finish top half!
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If including away at Villa as a difficult away game.
They only lost at Villa once in the last 28 visits before yesterday. Upwards trend my Arse.
Big Yaya Wilko needs to post in the save Ruben thread.
 
Is this right?
They are shit still.
But they have improved on last season.
And they are on TV constantly, including Boxing Day, which is the only PL match.
How does that work then?
 
youngbob said:
I think if you take in the full range of opinions I've expressed about Pep over the last 6-12 months, you'll get a clearer picture. I'm not fully #PepOut, but I have questioned - after some bad results this season which have reflected a lot of problems from last season - whether he's the man to get us back to the top. But I've also said, on many occasions, that I'm happy for Pep to continue as our manager because he's earned that right. I've also said numerous times that I think he'll win us the league again at the end of the 26/27 season before bowing out and that I'd be gutted if he left now or at the end of the 25/26 season. I'm doubtful over whether keeping him beyond his current contract would be the best thing for City long-term, but I wouldn't say I'm 100% of the opinion that "Pep needs to go". In a weak moment after the Leverkusen game, or after the Brighton and Spurs games this season, I might have made some off-hand comment wondering whether Pep is currently in his late 2000s Wenger phase, but I'm still broadly on board with him staying and would be sad if this season did end up being his last.

At the same time, Amorim has been at United for about 12 months now and I think it's fair enough to point out that they are currently in a better position than they were when Ten Hag left. They were 14th in the league when Amorim was appointed and they're currently 7th. I don't know if Amorim is "good". I've said in the post you've quoted that I don't think he'll be the man to win them a Premier League title because they're currently too far behind City, Arsenal, Liverpool, and Chelsea (and arguably Villa). But I think it's beginning to show that the more influence Amorim has on the squad, the better football they seem to be playing. They're currently 3rd in the xG table, which tends to show itself in the real table as the season carries on, and I wouldn't be surprised if they finished between 4th-6th with the way this season is shaping up. That's not to say they're "back" or that they've "turned a corner", they're simply showing improvement on the last days of Ten Hag and the early days of Amorim. That doesn't mean I think he's a better manager than Pep - I'm just wondering if United are at the beginning of a good cycle with a new manager while City might (might!) be reaching the end of a good cycle with the guy who's been in charge for 9-10 years.
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There has never been a top flight manager with a better record than Pep
and it's merely 'a good cycle!'
Oh please.

RAG!
 
Silva61 said:
Name me one player that has improved at the swamp that they have bought? Mbuemo and Cunha will also be bang average come next season, if their not already.
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You're correct and I hope it continues, but Amorin does seem a little different than his (many) predecessors. For one thing he's not constantly banging on about "the united way" and other such entitled shit. We will see, but they have made progress from last season, though nowhere near as much as the media and their fans would have you believe
 
flook said:
You're correct and I hope it continues, but Amorin does seem a little different than his (many) predecessors. For one thing he's not constantly banging on about "the united way" and other such entitled shit. We will see, but they have made progress from last season, though nowhere near as much as the media and their fans would have you believe
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Yeah in fairness I've not felt the need to dislike him anywhere near as much as any of their last few gobshights.
 
Grassland Blue said:
There has never been a top flight manager with a better record than Pep
and it's merely 'a good cycle!'
Oh please.

RAG!
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We are in a good cycle with Pep. The cycle has lasted 8-9 years, but it is still a cycle all the same.

And, not that I need to justify myself, but I've been a blue since the Gillingham game, a season ticket holder since 2003, and a member of this forum for 16 years (on and off). I've had this "new" account for longer than you've had yours ffs.

As I said before, posting anything vaguely reasonable about United sure does get people wound up.
 
flook said:
You're correct and I hope it continues, but Amorin does seem a little different than his (many) predecessors. For one thing he's not constantly banging on about "the united way" and other such entitled shit. We will see, but they have made progress from last season, though nowhere near as much as the media and their fans would have you believe
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they spent 200 million+ on forward line alone i should hope they have improved
 
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