United Want To Match And Better City's Youth / CFA Academy

[MillionMilesAway]

Kevin De Bruyne's recent form is a perfect example of why we could be making better use of our youngsters - he had to be rested against Swansea because he looks absolutely shattered in the previous few matches. Yet he played the full 90 minutes in the League Cup against Sunderland (we were 4-0 up at half-time), 75 minutes vs Palace (2-0 up half-time, 3-0 up after an hour) and then another 90 minutes against Hull. That's absolutely madness for a player new to the league to be playing so much football.

Ah good. More examples. Sunderland, yes, they could have tried things certainly.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Well I disagree.

And I'm not just talking about this season. We are a year behind imo.

There is an assumtion that using young players always means weakening the team. I strongly disagree with it. Playing Pozo as a cf vs Everton definitely weakens the team & anyone who watcges Pozo would tell you that, yet Pellegrini did it. Which imo means he has no idea about what our kids can & can't do.

Didn't they play Pozo because he was the nearest thing to a centreforward fit? I know he was out of position but he didn't look ready to play in the first team against anyone much.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Wow can you not read ,what I said, I never implied that you said any of them would make it.
I said you believed they were good enough and deserved to be given a chance.
I also said that many on that list,are not physically strong enough,I did not imply all.
I could have put names to them,but chose not to.
For your benefit,those that ARE at present; Bryan and Gunn
And I do have a clue as I watch them as often as you do and have done for years.
I also said it was about opinions,I value yours as I know what you are talking about with the youngsters.

So Pozo is physically stronger than Denayer, Evans, Boadu, Ambrose, Evans, etc etc ? And Garcoa is too ?


And you nentioned them 'making it' as criteria. They don't have to be assured of 'making it' to deserve a chance. Just good enough to do a job at the time.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Didn't they play Pozo because he was the nearest thing to a centreforward fit? I know he was out of position but he didn't look ready to play in the first team against anyone much.

'They' didn't, Pellegrini did. Vieira often was substituting him at half time round about then, as he was struggling. Funnily enough Garcia has hardly been Vieira's star man either but got on the first team pitch.

 

[Rolee]

Well I disagree.

And I'm not just talking about this season. We are a year behind imo.

There is an assumtion that using young players always means weakening the team. I strongly disagree with it. Playing Pozo as a cf vs Everton definitely weakens the team & anyone who watcges Pozo would tell you that, yet Pellegrini did it. Which imo means he has no idea about what our kids can & can't do.

That's a bit unfair Ted, he did say this about Pozo

‘Pozo is not a striker. We must try to find another way to play because our strikers will be out for at least one month more.’

Acknowledges that he's not a striker and so deployed him in a 'false 9', no?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

'They' didn't, Pellegrini did. Vieira often was substituting him at half time round about then, as he was struggling. Funnily enough Garcia has hardly been Vieira's star man either but got on the first team pitch.

Pozo played just over a half didn't he - came on as an early sub and went off after 60 mins or so? So about half a match.

Maybe Garcia and Pozo have different qualities, or positions, that were what was considered at the time.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

That's a bit unfair Ted, he did say this about Pozo

‘Pozo is not a striker. We must try to find another way to play because our strikers will be out for at least one month more.’

Acknowledges that he's not a striker and so deployed him in a 'false 9', no?

And almost as though it gave someone else a rest by doing so!

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

MUFC aspiring to be as good as City , youve got to laugh

 

[Neville Kneville]

That's a bit unfair Ted, he did say this about Pozo

‘Pozo is not a striker. We must try to find another way to play because our strikers will be out for at least one month more.’

Acknowledges that he's not a striker and so deployed him in a 'false 9', no?

Let me just clarify.

People keep using the argument that it's a huge gamble even to give a kid 15 mins off the bench & saying that's why Pellegrini (well they say 'the club' ) don't do it.

Pozo was not playing very well in the EDS & is, at his best, kaying off a cf or in an attacking mid role. Pellegrini on a whim, threw him upfront v Everton.

This is going against everything these people are arguing & effectively makes a nonsense out of it. Whether we call him a 'false 9' or anything else, he was struggling in the EDS & yet Pellegrini saw fit to chuck him in v Jagielka where he ended up playing a lot with his back to goal v two giants.

So it's a terrible risk to play kids in great form in their correct positions for 15 mins but not a great risk to chuck a kid who is way out of form, into the first team as a starter, playing out of position.

A small, not very strong kid at that.

It suited Pellegrini so he did it. It suits him not to play the others, so he doesn't. That's the lot imo. It's nothing to do with talent, physical build, planning or anything, it's just the manager.

 

[Chappie]

So Pozo is physically stronger than Denayer, Evans, Boadu, Ambrose, Evans, etc etc ? And Garcoa is too ?


And you nentioned them 'making it' as criteria. They don't have to be assured of 'making it' to deserve a chance. Just good enough to do a job at the time.

Well you obviously cant read /understand,what I have posted,so I will leave it at that.
It might help you if stop cutting and pasting one liners out of a whole post.