US & Israel attack Iran

FogBlueInSanFran said:
He hasn’t been ousted because the GOP refuses to investigate, impeach and convict despite ample evidence of activity that justifies it, and because his lickspittle cabinet and VP who owe their jobs/power solely to him won’t ever invoke the 25th Amendment. Their primary focus is fealty and self-protection, not their duty and oaths of office which are supposed to protect the nation and its people.
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That is both the strength and weakness of the current situation. Once Trump passes, however, be it politically or mortally, then all that loyalty will be sucked into a void. It is unprecedented.
 
Itd said:
Trump didn't post that. The tweet you shared is based on fake news, like your previous one.
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Folks, I know Trump is a terrible person and that the US and Israel are committing crimes, but the amount of anti-Trump/US/Israel fake news being shared is huge.

We need to understand that Iran, Russia, and their allies have thousands of propaganda accounts on social media aimed at spreading anti-Western misinfo, which is clearly working.

This girl you shared, “Syrian Girl”, is one of them, an account also widely known for being a pro-dictatorship and anti-democracy grifter. The hatred toward the US/Israel has grown so much that I’m seeing intelligent people sharing fake news coming from terrible people who have 0 credibility.
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Yep Syrian girl has been grifting account for years now, swear someone posted a tweet from that Hinkle bastard the other day too.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
Given the chance every Jew in the middle east - possibly the world - would be dead if the Islamists had their way.
FACT.
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Fact my arse. You really need to stop believing all the media bullshit. There are 10,000 Jews who live in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Yes that Iran. The reality is moslems are actually very respectful of other faiths including Christians and Jews, which is more than can be said for secular right wingers in the west who never stop bleating on in the fashion you do.

I grant there are extremists who would kill Jews given half a chance, but I would describe the US and Israel as extremists who are very happy to kill moslems, usually from a great height.
 
robbieh said:
Fact my arse. You really need to stop believing all the media bullshit. There are 10,000 Jews who live in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Yes that Iran. The reality is moslems are actually very respectful of other faiths including Christians and Jews, which is more than can be said for secular right wingers in the west who never stop bleating on in the fashion you do.

I grant there are extremists who would kill Jews given half a chance, but I would describe the US and Israel as extremists who are very happy to kill moslems, usually from a great height.
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So all yanks and Israelis are extremists but only a few Muslims? You need to give your head a proper wobble pal - not all yanks, Jews or Muslims want to kill folk.
 
metalblue said:
So all yanks and Israelis are extremists but only a few Muslims? You need to give your head a proper wobble pal - not all yanks, Jews or Muslims want to kill folk.
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To be clear I meant the US and Israeli governments. and when I said from a great height I thought it was obvious I wasn't talking about all Americans and Israelis.
 
robbieh said:
The reality is moslems are actually very respectful of other faiths including Christians and Jews, which is more than can be said for secular right wingers in the west.
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There’s a lot you’ve said I agree with in this thread but this is bananas
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Which is why MTG is trying to get ahead of that and position herself for that void IMO.
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As ridiculous as it is, Tucker Carlson is the one to watch out for. Ticks a lot of the Trump boxes, is completely tapped into how things play in the media, and positioned himself as anti-establishment, anti-Epstein, and Iran war and anti-Israel/AIPAC so early that he’ll blow up the longer this war goes on and the more unpopular it gets.

Weirdly he manages to successfully straddle both being MAGA and a non-MAGA republican.
 
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robbieh said:
To be clear I meant the US and Israeli governments. and when I said from a great height I thought it was obvious I wasn't talking about all Americans and Israelis.
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Appreciate the clarity. I’d say the Iranian and Israeli leadership are deeply hateful of one another, the US government just a useful fool in this instance and I caveat that with Trump is, well a bit hateful of foreigners, so your point may well stand historical analysis.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Given the chance every Jew in the middle east - possibly the world - would be dead if the Islamists had their way.
FACT.
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Do you believe the owner of your football club wants to kill all the Jews

Edit: my post was born of ignorance re the term Islamist.
I'd delete but it's been copied so I'll leave it and hold my hands up
 
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FogBlueInSanFran said:
Which is why MTG is trying to get ahead of that and position herself for that void IMO.
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Can’t see any single person capable of filling the inevitable void. Blind allegiance renders it terribly difficult to then become the leader. Unless one of his scions runs, and protecting the family from prosecution may be the impetus, the GOP could rupture again.
 
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