US & Israel attack Iran

So having failed on the regime change objective he now plans to bomb the whole infrastructure on which the economy is based. The long-term impact of this on Iranians will be seismic. All they now have to look forward to are power cuts, loss of jobs. food and medical shortages. Again it will be children who will feel this most. I suspect many Iranians will feel very betrayed in six months time.
 
If Ukraine can do it in 2/3 years than the US MIC can certainly do it and as much as they’d love to overdesign and charge 100x for the same thing, Ukraine’s battlefield proven version being out there on the market would presumably stop them from being able to get away with doing that to quite the same extent as normal.

The Made in America version might cost 10x the Ukrainian one but that’s what a 1 trillion dollar defense budget is for.
Simply impose a massive tariff on the Ukraine one. If US Gov picks up the tab though perhaps not.

Up to now Pres Trump has protected his manufacturers by tariffs rather than expecting better internal manufacturing methods.
 


Remind me who started this and why are you carrying out ethnic cleansing in Gaza and Lebanon he’s alive and reminding us all Iran can reach us if they choose
“A UK cobra meeting tomorrow”

This was always their plan, it’s whether others want to go along with it so the ‘allies’ can distract in the straits while Israel clear out the areas they need to grow.
 
It’s disproportional. Closing the Strait is a last ditch defence measure, but it is not really an offensive measure. The US would not vacate their bases because Iran ‘threatened’ them with Strait closure. Everyone would push against this, even Iran friendly countries. An open Strait benefits everyone including Iran.

It would also push countries to start looking at alternative solutions to the Strait thereby removing Iran’s leverage in future. This may happen anyway tbh.

There is already a pipe that cuts out the Strait but it’s only about half the capacity they get from tankers and I think has some other issues. Point being it’s not a new idea and fully agree they will likely build capacity and redundancy in to that system now.
 
Feel that this is all part of the plan to tank the global economy.

We're all going to be fucked for years.
There's another way.

But that would involve making the cunts who are funding this conflict to increase their own wealth having to part with 95% of it to help out everyone else.

There's more chance of Trump admitting he loves fucking and killing kids than the above scenario ever occuring.

What a fucked up human species we are. Using a system created by someone's imagination to blow up each other to protect it.

We could create another system that's better but that would mean the sociopathic cunts running everything wouldn't have that control anymore.

Hey ho...
 
There is already a pipe that cuts out the Strait but it’s only about half the capacity they get from tankers and I think has some other issues. Point being it’s not a new idea and fully agree they will likely build capacity and redundancy in to that system now.

It’s 7% of the straits daily flow. 1.4m barrels vs 20m
 
Surely all but the most delusional fuckwits can see it now. He's literally doing the exact opposite of a large part of his campaign.


Fcuk me that man is a maniac maybe people in white will come to take him away in a straight jacket! He is that mad!
 
Surely all but the most delusional fuckwits can see it now. He's literally doing the exact opposite of a large part of his campaign.


"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others,"

They'll change their views and wants depending on what he says and does.
 
Agreed mate. Lets hope this ultimatum is another Taco or the shit will really hit the fan.
Taco is such a stupid thing to say about Trump when we’re talking bombs and lives. If he says he is going to do something which most people think might be batshit crazy, then telling him he’s a chicken if he doesn’t do it isn’t logical. Praising his great ability to reconsider might work better if the end game isn’t rubble everywhere.
 
Taco is such a stupid thing to say about Trump when we’re talking bombs and lives. If he says he is going to do something which most people think might be batshit crazy, then telling him he’s a chicken if he doesn’t do it isn’t logical. Praising his great ability to reconsider might work better if the end game isn’t rubble everywhere.
You think what @super_city_si says about Trump on Bluemoon will change the latter’s behaviour?
 

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