US & Israel attack Iran

Good question

Absolutely ....

...... thanks for the context .... can't even spell nobhead.

Kim Jung whatever disagrees ... no fucker wants to play with his deterrence.

Imagine banging out 'regional terrorist industry', 'blackmail' and 'international law' to obfuscate from your solidarity with the genocidal rogue state of Israel.

Say it out loud you fucking coward.


I mean the reformed takfiri president of Syria was on another tour of European capitals last week and hosting Zelensky this week ...... whatever next indeed.

Given the insanity of the timeline I'm not into predictions aside from you not have any grasp on anything beyond easily repeatable soundbites.
Mention of war crimes and genocide but then solidarity with Kim Jong Un? The chap who blows people to bits in a stadium?

Wowser we've gone downhill. Enjoy your evening mate!
 
There’s always one apologist going for the biggest terrorist state in the world on here.

Recent logic seems to be that Iran are bad because they kill their own people. Israel are not as bad because they only kill other countries civilians, babies, kids, women etc.

It’s unbelievable Human brain can be so devoid of any sense. Or maybe it’s not human brains but AI brains.
 
Sorry but every single post just reveals how ignorant you are to this.

Iran and the US agreed no HEU in return for dropping sanctions. Trump ripped up the deal and imposed the heaviest sanctions he could on them.

So to then turn around and say Iran could avoid sanctions without an agreement is complete and utter bullshit.

As to why Iran thinks it needs nuclear weapons, you literally just answered that question yourself with North Korea. Ukraine and Libya other glaring examples.
Has Ukraine ever threatened to nuke Russia prior to the Russian invasion? No. Ukraine would love nukes now because of the simple fact that it was invaded. This isn't the case for Iran, it's a false equivalency because Iran was not attacked at random.

Iran has no defensive need for nuclear weapons on the part of foreign aggression elsewhere. Iran is equivalent to Russia or even Israel in its need for nuclear weapons which is it needs nuclear weapons so that it can defend itself from its own twattery.
 
There’s always one apologist going for the biggest terrorist state in the world on here.

Recent logic seems to be that Iran are bad because they kill their own people. Israel are not as bad because they only kill other countries civilians, babies, kids, women etc.

It’s unbelievable Human brain can be so devoid of any sense. Or maybe it’s not human brains but AI brains.

Some people pick a side and stick with it no matter what the mounting evidence is pointing to.
The people in charge of these countries are cunts.
 
Has Ukraine ever threatened to nuke Russia prior to the Russian invasion? No. Ukraine would love nukes now because of the simple fact that it was invaded. This isn't the case for Iran, it's a false equivalency because Iran was not attacked at random.
Are you suggesting that Ukraine was attacked at random?

What do you mean by ‘at random’?
 
Has Ukraine ever threatened to nuke Russia prior to the Russian invasion? No. Ukraine would love nukes now because of the simple fact that it was invaded. This isn't the case for Iran, it's a false equivalency because Iran was not attacked at random.

Iran has no defensive need for nuclear weapons. Iran is equivalent to Russia or even Israel in its need for nuclear weapons which is it needs nuclear weapons so that it can defend itself from its own twattery.
We can all fucking read an opinion piece in the Western media, from someone who is also an associate fellow of a weapons industry funded think tank. At least they get paid for it. Sad ****.
 
Yes the answer is Israel but why is Israel attacking Iran? Can anyone even stomach to say it?

I'm not going to argue that Israel aren't a key problem too because they are. That is a problem that the west can and should control but I don't agree that Israel is the sole bad actor and Iran is somehow defending itself. That's utter bollocks. This is (was?) a regime that has murdered its own people to sustain itself.


No Israel would likely not be attacking Iran.

Would Iran then under the protection of nukes continue to fund and arm terrorist groups or countries such as Russia who attack the west and Israel? Of course they would so it would be shitty foreign policy to allow them to proceed?.... And this is why they haven't been allowed to proceed.
It was more the US I was referring to but yes, Israel attacking them too. Regardless of what Iran has or hasn’t done, this wouldn’t be happening if they had a nuclear weapon. It’s the reason nobody bothers with North Korea.
 
There’s always one apologist going for the biggest terrorist state in the world on here.

Recent logic seems to be that Iran are bad because they kill their own people. Israel are not as bad because they only kill other countries civilians, babies, kids, women etc.

It’s unbelievable Human brain can be so devoid of any sense. Or maybe it’s not human brains but AI brains.
Probably referring to me?

I have said numerous times that I criticise Israel and Netanyahu should be in a dock in the Hague. I just don't get why pepople throw their toys out because I believe that the Iranian regime should be standing there alongside him.

To give a good example, arrest warrants have been issued upon Hamas members for numerous war crimes and yet people on here still support the Iranian regime, the country that arms them? Go figure I guess!

And yes! The US, UK Europe are exactly the same with Israel, it's obviously just an almighty mess isn't it?
 
Are you suggesting that Ukraine was attacked at random?

What do you mean by ‘at random’?
No, I was saying that Iran was attacked because of what Iran does elsewhere via its proxies. It wasn't a random attack because Israel or the US got bored and for example fancied some oil.

Ukraine was not attacked at random, it was invaded by a maniacal state which ironically in the context of this thread is one that is armed by the supposedly peaceful state that is Iran............
 
No, I was saying that Iran was attacked because of what Iran does elsewhere via its proxies. It wasn't a random attack because Israel or the US got bored and for example fancied some oil.

Ukraine was not attacked at random, it was invaded by a maniacal state which ironically in the context of this thread is one that is armed by the supposedly peaceful state that is Iran............
By your logic, right or wrong, if someone is providing funding or weapons to hezbollah or Hamas, they are legitimate targets of aggression ?

Would that apply to USA, UK or Europe who fund and supply weapons to Israel ?
 
Probably referring to me?

I have said numerous times that I criticise Israel and Netanyahu should be in a dock in the Hague ..... but I just can't help burying my condemnation in loads of paragraphs blaming every other actor in the region in a poorly veiled effort to equivocate away their utter barbarity.
Edited for accuracy.
 
It was more the US I was referring to but yes, Israel attacking them too. Regardless of what Iran has or hasn’t done, this wouldn’t be happening if they had a nuclear weapon. It’s the reason nobody bothers with North Korea.
60% of North Koreans are in deep outright poverty to the point that many don't even eat regularly. Nuclear weapons therefore preserve the North Korean regime but they fail miserably to preserve the North Korean people.
 
60% of North Koreans are in deep outright poverty to the point that many don't even eat regularly. Nuclear weapons therefore preserve the North Korean regime but they fail miserably to preserve the North Korean people.
I have no view on North Korea. 21% of Uk population officially lives in poverty and how much does Uk spend on defence?
 
Seems like it's always the same posters going into a tailspin at the idea the world is complex.
 
60% of North Koreans are in deep outright poverty to the point that many don't even eat regularly. Nuclear weapons therefore preserve the North Korean regime but they fail miserably to preserve the North Korean people.
Right, and what does that have anything to do with my post, or our conversation, at all?
 
By your logic, right or wrong, if someone is providing funding or weapons to hezbollah or Hamas, they are legitimate targets of aggression ?

Would that apply to USA, UK or Europe who fund and supply weapons to Israel ?
Yes you are correct and that's the exact war that has been playing out in front of us. Iran could not strike us directly so it struck our allies such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia or the UAE and then the Strait of Hormuz.

This is an asymmetric war where if there was military equivalence then there is a strong chance that FAR more would be dead and who knows if this would spread further where the UK/NATO would certainly get involved. It only hasn't turned into huge bloodshed because the technological difference in terms of militaries is vast.

I have no view on North Korea. 21% of Uk population officially lives in poverty and how much does Uk spend on defence?
The UK measures poverty by the relationship between income and housing/living costs. Estimates of poverty in North Korea are achieved by estimating the number of people who actually die of outright starvation simply because there isn't enough food to keep the population alive. But yes they have $bns+ per year nuclear weapons.
 
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