Uncle Wally One Ball
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Is the chemistry between Trump and any foreign leader great, unless they are dictators?
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond
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>> 1. Relevance?
>> 2. The odds are factual and appear to be correctly reported from the site I referenced. Take your pick from any of these odds quotations (the first few results that show up on Google for me). It's all the same.
US Presidential Election Betting Odds: Donald Trump SHORTENS FURTHER into 4/5 to win the upcoming election as Joe Biden DRIFTS in the betting!
Donald Trump is now the odds-on favourite to win the US Presidential Election with the latest betting odds putting him clear above Joe Biden in the market....
www.olbg.com
Donald Trump Betting Odds to Win U.S. Presidential Election 2024: Trump Still Ahead Despite Harris Surge
Sean Tomlinson takes a look at the best Donald Trump 2024 U.S. presidential election odds, with the Republican candidate favored to win at -150.
www.sportsbookreview.com
And so on ad nauseum.
>> 3. Agree. And yet, Republicans rightly abandoned Nixon for much less. Hence the question: What's changed since Nixon and why is support for Trump so high given all that's transpired and that's known about him?
FogBlueInSanFran
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Are you SURE you understand why odds change? I mean . . . really sure?>> 1. Relevance?
>> 2. The odds are factual and appear to be correctly reported from the site I referenced. Take your pick from any of these odds quotations (the first few results that show up on Google for me). It's all the same.
US Presidential Election Betting Odds: Donald Trump SHORTENS FURTHER into 4/5 to win the upcoming election as Joe Biden DRIFTS in the betting!
Donald Trump is now the odds-on favourite to win the US Presidential Election with the latest betting odds putting him clear above Joe Biden in the market....Donald Trump Betting Odds to Win U.S. Presidential Election 2024: Trump Still Ahead Despite Harris Surge
Sean Tomlinson takes a look at the best Donald Trump 2024 U.S. presidential election odds, with the Republican candidate favored to win at -150.
And so on ad nauseum.
>> 3. Agree. And yet, Republicans rightly abandoned Nixon for much less. Hence the question: What's changed since Nixon and why is support for Trump so high given all that's transpired and that's known about him?
Re Nixon: Republican voters continued to support him 2-to-1 up until the end. It was those Republicans (and Democrats) actually doing their jobs as elected officials that turned against him. And even THEN there were some who didn't turn against him until the smoking gun tape.
It Took A Long Time For Republicans To Abandon Nixon
On July 23, 1974, Rep. Lawrence Hogan, Sr., a Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, bought airtime on TV networks across his home state of Maryland. He h…
fivethirtyeight.com
Uncle Wally One Ball
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Why are these yanks still comparing anyone to Nixon like he is at all relevant these days? As bad as he was, and he was poison as a deeply paranoid and insecure man, the Republican Party is now filled with idiots even he would roll his eyes at. The Republican Party at the time of Nixon had the balls to impeach him. These jokers over there now couldnt do that despite that prick being the most dangerous man ever to be heard or known let alone elected. Its lunacy there
Mr Kobayashi
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Here he is praising LBJ, unlike Trump he can compliment others without bragging about his own qualities in the same sentence.
Also unlike Trump he didn't storm out of interviews or throw tantrums when out of office. Compare Frost v Nixon to Trump v Morgan.
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The US is just as fucked as the UK.
Mr Kobayashi
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He's telling porky pies. Israel couldn't have conducted it's genocidal operations without American support.
FogBlueInSanFran
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It’s a ridiculous comparison, agreed. GOP was partisan for a while but once the facts/lies dripped out, by the end there were very few loyalists left because Congress/Senate/WH staff knew their real duty was to the COUNTRY, not the party, and certainly not any single one President.
Uncle Wally One Ball
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Tell that to Al Gore. That was a stolen election
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The comparison is apt because he was the last President who committed crimes while in office that would rise to the level of impeachable offense in a non-partisan weighing of fact.
I agree with your assessment of the Republican party - but the party representation reflects the will of Republicans - Republicans voted these candidates into office.
How did this come to pass? How is it that Republicans now support amoral, mendacious - and in some cases - criminals or would-be criminals? What happened to the centrist Republican? Are centrists still the majority but they're going to vote Republican because they always have? Or has America changed since the 1970's - and the centrist Republican is a rare species.
The state of the Republican party is due to a complex confluence of many events, and it's not just Trump.