US Politics Thread

Dax777 said:
Whether one avows or disavows Trump is only relevant to people who'd never vote Republican anyway. My general attitude is thT these kinds of positions don't count.

It's like an MSNBC activist trying to describe who an acceptable Republican would be.
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Presumably, most of Trumps cabinet and a host of Republican ex senators etc don’t count. Totally irrelevant?
You are flogging a dead horse and look stupid. Carry on.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
You are cloaking the US Presidential Election Debates in things it was never going to be. The person who states the most facts doesn’t win. Truisms don’t count!

It’s about energizing people by telling them what you think they want to hear! Americans, far and wide, ARE LIKE TRUMP…they want to hear they’re good, the others are bad, someone is out there trying to fix that, and you are being heard by us, because we ARE you, we SHARE your grievances! Let me tell you what’s wrong with the other guy and what he’s done to you…and you can lie through your teeth, because the vast majority of the electorate is too damned busy to know facts from lies, or the intricacies of the issue. They want black and white!

Foreigners bad. Americans good.
Inflation bad. Biden did it. He bad.
Biden is now Kamala. She bad, too!

Crime bad. Immigrants bad. Immigrants and crime bad at same time. Immigrants causing crime. Harris like immigrants. Harris bad.

Guns good. Bad guys use guns for bad. Good people use guns for good. Good guys need guns. Bad guys with guns need to be shot by good guys with guns. Immigrants who commit crimes like guns. Immigrants, crime and criminal immigrants with guns bad. Harris wants to take away good guy guns do only bad guy immigrants have guns. Harris bad.

Americans need a little path they can walk down to feel better about how they feel about issues and Trump & Vance give them the MOST SIMPLISTIC PATH POSSIBLE…no matter how false, full of lies or holes, it might be!

“Did we tell you what you want to hear?
Then, vote for us!”

Lies, half truths and nonsense?
You just can’t trust the MSM, because they’re not on our side and will say anything to stop us!

Simple, efficient, and mainly stupid…but stupid sells in America, as long as you don’t sell it as stupid, but sell it as “we are with you and believe what you believe!”

Hook, line and sinker!

Don’t confuse the average American voter with deep thought. None exists in their busy lives.

Work
Beer
Football
Trucks
Fucking
Guns
America, we’re number 1! Fuck yeah!

There you have it!
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Pretty much sums it up.
 
KS55 said:
Presumably, most of Trumps cabinet and a host of Republican ex senators etc don’t count. Totally irrelevant?
You are flogging a dead horse and look stupid. Carry on.
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Not 'most' at best some.. perhaps a few. And a few Republicans ex-Senators and Congresswoman. When I say they are not relevant, I mean they don't sway anyone's vote.

They are just fodder for Democrats talking points. Most voters vote based on their own personal interest.

Economy, Safety, Immigration, healthcare etc. No one cares what a Congressman who couldn't win his own district thinks about the election. That's what I mean.

All the talk of the Cheney's and a bunch of ex staggers not voting for Trump is just beltway insider stuff.

It's just noise to the everyday person. For the life of me, I don't understand how so many don't get this.

So yes, they are mostly irrelevant. Harris and Trump are polling at about 46 to 50% it's tight everywhere. Cheney and her Dad are irrelevant to the outcome outside there own personal vote.
 
Dax777 said:
Not 'most' at best some.. perhaps a few. And a few Republicans ex-Senators and Congresswoman. When I say they are not relevant, I mean they don't sway anyone's vote.

They are just fodder for Democrats talking points. Most voters vote based on their own personal interest.

Economy, Safety, Immigration, healthcare etc. No one cares what a Congressman who couldn't win his own district thinks about the election. That's what I mean.

All the talk of the Cheney's and a bunch of ex staggers not voting for Trump is just beltway insider stuff.

It's just noise to the everyday person. For the life of me, I don't understand how so many don't get this.

So yes, they are mostly irrelevant. Harris and Trump are polling at about 46 to 50% it's tight everywhere. Cheney and her Dad are irrelevant to the outcome outside there own personal vote.
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What about his lawyers? They are lining up, not only to vote for Harris but to bear witness against him in his criminal cases. However much you down play it, it is the case that serious non maga Republicans are voting Harris in large numbers. They may well capture Florida as a result.
Note: the majority of his first pick cabinet will not vote for him, which is nearer to what I meant previously.
 
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