It's fine to think that something is politically motivated, especially when the guilty party continually claims that it's politically motivated. But that doesn't mean it is.
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Once again, the stunning lack of understanding that perception often trumps (no pun intended) reality.Once again, the stunning lack of understanding about the differences between politicians and bureaucrats/government employees who have been appointed by politicians and have a political affiliation (as most do) makes me wonder about how little time some spend reading.
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As above - perception v realityIt's fine to think that something is politically motivated, especially when the guilty party continually claims that it's politically motivated. But that doesn't mean it is.
And it's why when people try to change people's perception from reality to fantasy it needs to be called out.As above - perception v reality
Not much.What do you think of Democrats supporting Trump?
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It's not working / won't work. Views are too polarised / entrenched and risks getting down in the gutter with trump. Harris is at her strongest when she rises above all this and just concentrates on the positive message which I think she does well even if it's light on policy detail.And it's why when people try to change people's perception from reality to fantasy it needs to be called out.
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I don’t really think that was his point.As above - perception v reality
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Calling out lies isn’t getting down in the gutter with Trump — it’s the opposite of that. But I agree Harris is trying to stay clear of the fray and there are plenty of others who will call them out so she doesn’t have to unless asked.It's not working / won't work. Views are too polarised / entrenched and risks getting down in the gutter with trump. Harris is at her strongest when she rises above all this and just concentrates on the positive message which I think she does well even if it's light on policy detail.
In fact almost every public anti-trump Republican does it as a money grab. They get invited to MSN channels as correspondents and paid exorbitantly at that.I'm sure there are other candidates they could vote for - even if it's just as a one off protest. They are just hedging their bets so whatever the outcome they can claim to be on the 'right' side and keep their power/jobs.
The notion that it's out of principle, is laughable. For example,Cheney can't win an election to save her life. So she has no choice but to parlay what she has left into money.
No one ever invited Cheney to MSNBC to discuss the value of the policies she believes in. The invite her strictly for the purpose of telling the world how much she doesn't trust Trump.
The funny part is even Liberals see it as politically motivated. They just think the end ( stopping Trump) justifies the means.Very true but Dax makes a fair point too. Trumpers / republicans see the lawsuits as politically motivated rather than as a pursuit of justice - largely prosecuted by the same people who have also been asking them to believe biden isn't senile for 4 years.
I mean, in what other world would a pro democracy party nominate it's flag bearer with Zero votes and at the end of a Coup.
Watch almost any utterance by Biden, and you can see even in his old age he is seething. Always doing something anti-Kamala every opportunity he gets.
It's so obvious he was pushed out and he doesn't appreciate it. But this and every other means is acceptable as long as it achieves the goal. Stop Trump.
On the other hand, there are some (myself amongst them) who sees Trump as an unfortunate evil. Id rather JD over any of the other 4. The Self embellishing Walz who signed laws to perform sex change surgery on kids from out of state and against the wishes of their parents will never work for me.
Kamala is incompetent, period. Just watch her and listen to her. Once you go beyond the identity stuff, I'm a woman, I'm a minority, I'm 'black,, there is nothing else there. And yes, Trump, especially now, is probably as bad as Kamala. Id grant that.
But J.D Vance is simply a gar better person, candidate and future President than all 3 put together.
Hence why I can't wait to vote for him in 4 years. This year is a close your nose and pick the better of terrible choices. But this would be the last time that happens.
I'm voting Trump, actually in a week or so, I'd be saying I voted Trump. Coz I'm early voting.
How so? You thought Republicans supporting Kamala are showing principle. What are Democrats supporting Trump showing?Not much.