All politicians do.
Can you give an example of him turning to court votes. I'm not saying you are writing. Just wondering what constitutes 'turning'
What if he wins :)
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You mean the Party is not a Trump cult like you told us it was? Shocking!!!The primary results from Georgia suggest some of Trump’s endorsees fell flat on their faces. And that fucking doorknob Cawthorn is out.
There is hope. Not much but a little.
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It is not a Trump cult per se - it's a cult of extremist, unreasoning beliefs regardless of logic, in support of extreme Right wing positions, to the extent that the Right in America no longer believe in Democracy.You mean the Party is not a Trump cult like you told us it was? Shocking!!!
Should you, Dax, actually believe in Democracy (which I actually think that you do) - then it's beyond me why you would continue to support/defend Republicans.
Why is he utter scum?I mean he is utter scum, but I don't know if he'd go that far . . . and I doubt he'd have a cult like Trump that would be supportive of such a move. I don't see him as as bad as Trump, who is IMO uniquely bad.
Does he smell little girls hair? Get unnecessary close to women in photos. Make inappropriate comments about children? What exactly is it that warrants this 'scum' appellation.
Wait, perhaps he gives eulogies at the funerals of KKK members? Or perhaps he reminisces about the good old days jocking and jiving with avowed Racists. Oh wait... That's all Biden... Funny I've never seen a post of yours calling him scum.
SO whatever it is that Desantis is doing, certainly is worse than any of the above right?????
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Why are you defending ultra-right politicians?Why is he utter scum?
Does he smell little girls hair? Get unnecessary close to women in photos. Make inappropriate comments about children? What exactly is it that warrants this 'scum' appellation.
Wait, perhaps he gives eulogies at the funerals of KKK members? Or perhaps he reminisces about the good old days jocking and jiving with avowed Racists. Oh wait... That's all Biden... Funny I've never seen a post of yours calling him scum.
SO whatever it is that Desantis is doing, certainly is worse than any of the above right?????
I get that you favor conservative policies - but are you really on board with "The Big Lie" and all that this implies? I suspect that you are not on board - as you claim not to have voted for Trump in 2020.
The current crop of Republicans are fascists by-in-large; I make this observation as a centrist - should a Bush/Romney/Regan run for office I'd very much consider voting for him.
The current crop of Republicans, however, don't believe in Democracy at all. They're busy making sure that votes don't matter - appointing election officials who publicly state that they would not have certified the 2020 election results in favor of Biden in spite of absolutely no evidence of fraud.
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Because I don't believe Democrats winning is what defines Democracy. Doesn't mean I don't believe in Democracy. Desantis won fair and square in Florida. What about that is undemocratic.It is not a Trump cult per se - it's a cult of extremist, unreasoning beliefs regardless of logic, in support of extreme Right wing positions, to the extent that the Right in America no longer believe in Democracy.
Should you, Dax, actually believe in Democracy (which I actually think that you do) - then it's beyond me why you would continue to support/defend Republicans.
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I believe in the vote too.Because I don't believe Democrats winning is what defines Democracy. Doesn't mean I don't believe in Democracy. Desantis won fair and square in Florida. What about that is undemocratic.
That's Democracy.
Republicans, writ large, do not believe in Democracy. They believe that any result not in their favor is obviously wrong - and must be over-turned. This is the "Big Lie." You, unfortunately, are part of the Lie - as you do nothing whatsoever to oppose this horrid viewpoint. Fucking Nazi's are about to take over America - in no small part due to the likes of cowards/sheep like you who won't oppose what's obviously going on.
Labels arenr useful. They are simply a cudgel used to beat back legitimate opposition. What Ultra Right Wing simply means a Racist. I.e a race essentialist of the White Racist type.Why are you defending ultra-right politicians?
What about Desantis makes him a White supremacists. Coz that's really what Ulyra-Rifht is code for. Or better yet, define what you mean by Ultra Right and explain how that applies to Desantis.
FFS! How long are you gonna milk that? Who gives a fuck what Trump thinks about his lost election. We are talking about 2024.I get that you favor conservative policies - but are you really on board with "The Big Lie" and all that this implies? I suspect that you are not on board - as you claim not to have voted for Trump in 2020.
And Desantis being a potential candidate. What does that have to do with Trump. BTW, I'm guessing the 'Big Lie' is Trump claiming the election was stolen? I haven't been watching enough MSNBC of late to keep up with the Lingo.
Evidence. Provide evidence?????The current crop of Republicans are fascists by-in-large. They don't believe in Democracy at all.
1. You need evidence not left leaning claims. Again I'll repeat Georgia is having a record turnout of voters despite all the 'suppression fear mongering" that went on all through the last two years. Including Black turn out.And they're busy making sure that votes don't matter - appointing election officials who publicly state that they would not have certified the 2020 election results in favor of Biden in spite of absolutely no evidence of fraud.
2. Where are they busy doing all these vote doesn't matter work? Certainly, not in Georgia.
3. There was evidence of fraud. There always is evidence of fraud. But most common sense people didn't think it was enough to warrant holding up the Republic from continuing. Including Trump supporters who felt that way.
4. But none of that is relevant to your accusations.
Historically speaking, Democrats have been the ones who more often than not challenged the legitimacy of elections.I believe in the vote too.
That's Democracy.
Republicans, writ large, do not believe in Democracy. They believe that any result not in their favor is obviously wrong - and must be over-turned.
Bush vs Gore ( Counting chads in Florida) Democrats challenged the legitimacy.
Trump v Clinton ( Russia Collusion) 3 year investigation that produced no evidence of Collusion. This was a Democrar challenge of the Election.
Million Women's March. Not my President... Examples of more challenges to the 2016 elections.
Kemp v. Abrams 2018 Georgia Governor's race: Democrat challenge. Claimed voter suppression in spite of recording the highest black turnout to date at the time. She has yet to concede that election. So many folks who do t let facts get in the way of their ideological claims.
Biden v. Trump: Republican challenge.... Trump probably learned this from his days as a NY Democrat who turned Republican to take advantage of an opening. But ok.
Yet, your conclusion... It's Republicans who can't take a loss. Lol. Seriously? You sound like one of those who don't let facts get in the way of your ideology.
Cowards? You know what's cowardly, being a clueless follower of what's trendy. There is no 'Big Lie.' Politicians, have been denying losing elections for ages. The rest of us just move on and let them stew in their idiocy.This is the "Big Lie." You, unfortunately, are part of the Lie - as you do nothing whatsoever to oppose this horrid viewpoint. Fucking Nazi's are about to take over America - in no small part due to the likes of cowards/sheep like you who won't oppose what's obviously going on.
What's delusional is conflating conservative with racist and Alt-Right. It's also despicable by the way.
I keep asking you for examples of these claims, but you provide none. Coz you are simply mimicking leftist talking points. And that type of automaton response is what's cowardly. Because you have no examples or evidence. Just assertions ad infinitum
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Mississippi governor Tate Reeves is considering doing exactly that.The Right is veering so far afield of center one can only hope that it hurts them in upcoming elections. I heard on NPR that some Republican State has even gone so far as to introduce state legislation banning contraceptives. Amazing.