US Politics Thread

[Mr Kobayashi]

Rachel Maddow is not a comedy news show. It's a straight up opinions news show. Conflating Maddow with Stewart's daily show is the height of disingenuousness.

This is a strawman. Rachel Maddow has never made jokes during her show?

It's infotainment i.e. information packaged in an entertaining not merely interesting format.

Go look up BBC outside source with Ros Atkins or various programs put out by the BBC News Channel, very few lean towards entertainment in the same way as American news broadcasters do.

The fact that you actually believe there is an equivalence of truth between Maddow and Tucker shows you have decoupled from reality.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

This is a strawman. Rachel Maddow has never made jokes during her show?

It's infotainment i.e. information packaged in an entertaining not merely interesting format.

Go look up BBC outside source with Ros Atkins or various programs put out by the BBC News Channel, very few lean towards entertainment in the same way as American news broadcasters do.

The fact that you actually believe there is an equivalence of truth between Maddow and Tucker shows you have decoupled from reality.

Maddow is pretty straight up with her reporting of the facts. Maybe a touch sensationalist (and snarky), but still never sways from the truth. She's pretty damn smart too. Carlson is an out-and-out lair and (not so) closet racist.

Carlson has a BA in History. Maddow holds a Doctorate in political science from Oxford as well as a Bachelors degree in public policy.

 

[Dax777]

This is an absolute horseshit post from someone who I guarantee has never worked in, nor dealt with, media of any kind -- including any of the organizations mentioned

And that's important how? Are you saying only people who have worked or dealt with those channels are able to tell when they misinform?

Why do you even come up with these idiotic objections?

This is a strawman. Rachel Maddow has never made jokes during her show?

This is the straw man. They all make jokes on their shoes. Including Tucker. That's not the point.

These are opinion shows that sometimes make jokes.

John Stewart is a jokes show, that sometimes has an opinion. Stewart exaggerates as a rule. These guys, including Maddow and Carlson don't.

So, No!!! Maddow is NOT like Stewart..

It's infotainment i.e. information packaged in an entertaining not merely interesting format.

Where did I say it wasn't. That's exactly what I pointed out earlier.

Go look up BBC outside source with Ros Atkins or various programs put out by the BBC News Channel, very few lean towards entertainment in the same way as American news broadcasters do.

Again, you are preaching to the choir. I already said this.

The fact that you actually believe there is an equivalence of truth between Maddow and Tucker shows you have decoupled from reality.

Proving this requires evidence not just mere assertions. They both 'Infotain' based on their political leanings.

That you call one 'misinformation,' and the other one 'exagerration' just shows your bias. Is all.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

And that's important how? Are you saying only people who have worked or dealt with those channels are able to tell when they misinform?

Why do you even come up with these idiotic objections?

This is the straw man. They all make jokes on their shoes. Including Tucker. That's not the point.

These are opinion shows that sometimes make jokes.

John Stewart is a jokes show, that sometimes has an opinion. Stewart exaggerates as a rule. These guys, including Maddow and Carlson don't.

So, No!!! Maddow is NOT like Stewart..



Where did I say it wasn't. That's exactly what I pointed out earlier.


Again, you are preaching to the choir. I already said this.


Proving this requires evidence not just mere assertions. They both 'Infotain' based on their political leanings.

That you call one 'misinformation,' and the other one 'exagerration' just shows your bias. Is all.

So you didn't post this a few pages back?

To that effect, I can say this: If anyone is of the opinion that Fox news misinforms while the likes of CNN n MSNBC are generally more credible, then I can conclude without worry that such a person is currently highly misinformed.

FAKE NEWS. Both sides.

LOOOSER.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

And that's important how? Are you saying only people who have worked or dealt with those channels are able to tell when they misinform?

No. I am saying you are terrible at it and I am better than you.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I take it back - our Chris Philp is a brilliant politician

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

So you didn't post this a few pages back?



FAKE NEWS. Both sides.

LOOOSER.

“Both sides” is so Nixon. See the TV poll rigging exercise he made his interns do, then, when uncovered, claimed he did it because he assumed the Dems would too. The first “bots” were on 3x5 index cards.

 

[Dax777]

So you didn't post this a few pages back?



FAKE NEWS. Both sides.

LOOOSER.

I notice you haven't actually taken a position. What's your position exactly? That Maddow 'exaggerates while Carlson misinforms? That Maddow misinformms but less than Carlson? That only Carlson misinforms? Let's make sure we actually disagree here.

Let's not be like like Foggy. Who doesn't disagree but respond as if he does.


I repeat! They all misinform. Consistently!

 

[Dax777]

“Both sides” is so Nixon. See the TV poll rigging exercise he made his interns do, then, when uncovered, claimed he did it because he assumed the Dems would too. The first “bots” were on 3x5 index cards.

It's not "both sides', it's any and all opinion laden show.
They all :
1. Tell outright lies,
2. Exaggerate for emphasis
3. Omit relevant facts,
4. Conflate unrelated issues ( This you are good at.)
5. Frame an issue in a way that guarantees the audience will be misinformed.
6. Appeals to Authority and Emotions.
7. Use faulty comparisons.

The list of tricks go on and on. All of these end up creating the same effect. A misinformed audience.

The above applies equally to The Rachel Maddow show, Tucker Carlson tonight, The Reid Out. Don Lemon, the Guv's brother, the Five and on and on.

 

[Dax777]

No you are not. That's all in your head.