US Politics Thread

[Bigga]

From the way you argue, I can tell you don't fully grasp how disinformation works... Will discuss that more later.



These are just talking points. I can tell you don't watch much Fox. Rather you watch what others say about Fox. If you want to partake in a honest conversation, you'd produce clips of Fox actual disinformation claims and I can agree or disagree on those claims.

You making generalized leftist claims about what Fox said, isn't evidence of what they've said. And I can't agree with your conclusions about them because you said so.

But as a general rule, I am annoyed by disinformation and often watch multiple sources to reduce the amount of disinformation I believe.

As it relates to regulations, you seem to be quite naive as to how complex of an issue this is...

You can literally make factual statements that invariably misleads a majority of the viewers. How do you regulate that?


Fantastic!!!! Unlike you, I can't wait to be asked this question :)

Here is a 2 minute clip of MSNBC'S Nicole Wallace misinforming the public time and time again.

By the way, this video was put together by left leaning journalist Glenn Greenwald:




There are loads of these type videos on YouTube. You should Google them.

Don't Walk, Run is a conservative YouTube channel that dedicates his time to debunking Leftist claims that are false or misleading, by actually digging into the claims and the sources for those claims. Feel free to watch a few of his videos. You might even find a few things you believe that he debunks with evidence.

I like Greenwald and have posted some of his stuff myself. It's not without reason, but he can be bitter sometimes.

However, he's completely correct on the hypocrisy of 'liberal media' with disinformation and 'fact checking' for the right and the actual left.

 

[buckshot]

This woman just won reelection in her district. She's definitely one of the five most stupid members of congress but she never asked the department of interior if they could move the moon to stop rising ocean levels.

 

[mancity1]

This woman just won reelection in her district. She's definitely one of the five most stupid members of congress but she never asked the department of interior if they could move the moon to stop rising ocean levels.

What's more frightening is that she apparently has had 9000 plus replies.

Twitter has a lot to answer for (LOL) , I am glad I get zapped inside every time I think about opening up an account.

 

[laserblue]

From the way you argue, I can tell you don't fully grasp how disinformation works... Will discuss that more later.



These are just talking points. I can tell you don't watch much Fox. Rather you watch what others say about Fox. If you want to partake in a honest conversation, you'd produce clips of Fox actual disinformation claims and I can agree or disagree on those claims.

You making generalized leftist claims about what Fox said, isn't evidence of what they've said. And I can't agree with your conclusions about them because you said so.

But as a general rule, I am annoyed by disinformation and often watch multiple sources to reduce the amount of disinformation I believe.

As it relates to regulations, you seem to be quite naive as to how complex of an issue this is...

You can literally make factual statements that invariably misleads a majority of the viewers. How do you regulate that?


Fantastic!!!! Unlike you, I can't wait to be asked this question :)

Here is a 2 minute clip of MSNBC'S Nicole Wallace misinforming the public time and time again.

By the way, this video was put together by left leaning journalist Glenn Greenwald:




There are loads of these type videos on YouTube. You should Google them.

Don't Walk, Run is a conservative YouTube channel that dedicates his time to debunking Leftist claims that are false or misleading, by actually digging into the claims and the sources for those claims. Feel free to watch a few of his videos. You might even find a few things you believe that he debunks with evidence.

No-one beats the master of lies and disinformation Tucker Carlson on Fox. His defence in court when faced with a defamation lawsuit was that he's an entertainer and that no sensible person would believe a word he says. The judge agreed and stated just before acquitting him "The general tenor of the show should then inform a viewer that Carlson is not stating actual facts about the topics he discusses and is instead engaged in exaggeration and non-literal commentary". Exaggeration = bullshit and non-literal commentary = lies.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

No-one beats the master of lies and disinformation Tucker Carlson on Fox. His defence in court when faced with a defamation lawsuit was that he's an entertainer and that no sensible person would believe a word he says. The judge agreed and stated just before acquitting him "The general tenor of the show should then inform a viewer that Carlson is not stating actual facts about the topics he discusses and is instead engaged in exaggeration and non-literal commentary". Exaggeration = bullshit and non-literal commentary = lies.

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Is it true that he is a nonce that eats babies?

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Is it true that he is a nonce that eats babies?

Who, Dax? Oh. You meant Tucker. Sorry.

 

[Dax777]

No-one beats the master of lies and disinformation Tucker Carlson on Fox. His defence in court when faced with a defamation lawsuit was that he's an entertainer and that no sensible person would believe a word he says. The judge agreed and stated just before acquitting him "The general tenor of the show should then inform a viewer that Carlson is not stating actual facts about the topics he discusses and is instead engaged in exaggeration and non-literal commentary". Exaggeration = bullshit and non-literal commentary = lies.

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Ninth Circuit backs dismissal of defamation suit against Rachel Maddow

The Ninth Circuit found MSNBC host Rachel Maddow’s comment that One America News “really literally is paid Russian propaganda” was “an obvious exaggeration, cushioned within an undisputed news story.”

www.courthousenews.com

Here is a similar acquittal for the mirror opposite of Tucker Carlson on the Left:

Rachel Maddow

She too got an acquittal in a lawsuit brought against her on the same basis "Exaggeration and opinion."


Again, this further supports my original position that misinformation is a common practice on every major News channel.

It is the norm for all of them. Not the exception. To that effect, I can say this: If anyone is of the opinion that Fox news misinforms while the likes of CNN n MSNBC are generally more credible, then I can conclude without worry that such a person is currently highly misinformed.

And that unfortunately is true of most on this thread.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Ninth Circuit backs dismissal of defamation suit against Rachel Maddow

The Ninth Circuit found MSNBC host Rachel Maddow’s comment that One America News “really literally is paid Russian propaganda” was “an obvious exaggeration, cushioned within an undisputed news story.”

www.courthousenews.com

Here is a similar acquittal for the mirror opposite of Tucker Carlson on the Left:

Rachel Maddow

She too got an acquittal in a lawsuit brought against her on the same basis "Exaggeration and opinion."


Again, this further supports my original position that misinformation is a common practice on every major News channel.

It is the norm for all of them. Not the exception. To that effect, I can say this: If anyone is of the opinion that Fox news misinforms while the likes of CNN n MSNBC are generally more credible, then I can conclude without worry that such a person is currently highly misinformed.

And that unfortunately is true of most on this thread.

This is baloney. I've previously spoken of the flaw on relying on infotainment for factual information before and Maddow and John Stewart were cited examples.

But there is a big difference between exaggeration for comedy and supporting fringe and unhinged conspiratorial beliefs.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Ninth Circuit backs dismissal of defamation suit against Rachel Maddow

The Ninth Circuit found MSNBC host Rachel Maddow’s comment that One America News “really literally is paid Russian propaganda” was “an obvious exaggeration, cushioned within an undisputed news story.”

www.courthousenews.com

Here is a similar acquittal for the mirror opposite of Tucker Carlson on the Left:

Rachel Maddow

She too got an acquittal in a lawsuit brought against her on the same basis "Exaggeration and opinion."


Again, this further supports my original position that misinformation is a common practice on every major News channel.

It is the norm for all of them. Not the exception. To that effect, I can say this: If anyone is of the opinion that Fox news misinforms while the likes of CNN n MSNBC are generally more credible, then I can conclude without worry that such a person is currently highly misinformed.

And that unfortunately is true of most on this thread.

This is an absolute horseshit post from someone who I guarantee has never worked in, nor dealt with, media of any kind -- including any of the organizations mentioned (unlike yours truly, who has dealt with ALL of them) -- but at least you've found a way to dismiss anyone who disagrees with you.

It is truly staggering how little you know compared to how much you think you know. It really is.

 

[Dax777]

This is baloney. I've previously spoken of the flaw on relying on infotainment for factual information before and Maddow and John Stewart were cited examples.

But there is a big difference between exaggeration for comedy and supporting fringe and unhinged conspiratorial beliefs.

Rachel Maddow is not a comedy news show. It's a straight up opinions news show. Conflating Maddow with Stewart's daily show is the height of disingenuousness.