US Politics Thread

[Bonzo Nododo]

I posed a question a couple of pages back, from a neutral position, an open question to ask whether this new ruling would enforce personal responsibility when it comes to sex, outside the usual caveats.

Not one person had the courage to answer it because it put a dent in their reasoning about abortion being an everyday use as a contraceptive because no other form was used. As far as I know there are 20+ ways to prevent pregnancy in the US.

I found the side step of the question very interesting and that's me in favour of a woman's autonomy over her own body.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

It's not a good look for the women. That country gets worse every day. Getting like a one party state. Glad l am here with any British politician in charge from any party.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

 

[Bigga]

It's not a good look for the women. That country gets worse every day. Getting like a one party state. Glad l am here with any British politician in charge from any party.

Today, I spoke to my oldest daughter who is 30 and in the LGBTQ+ community. She agrees with me that from the choices available for women and sexual consent, abortion should never be a resort (unless other forms of contraception fails, I think she meant).

I, honestly, thought she wouldn't be staunchly in favour of this ruling.

Whilst I didn't ask her this part of the question, I'm assuming she's in favour of responsibility to protect oneself in and around the act of sex away from abortion.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Today, I spoke to my oldest daughter who is 30 and in the LGBTQ+ community. She agrees with me that from the choices available for women and sexual consent, abortion should never be a resort (unless other forms of contraception fails, I think she meant).

I, honestly, thought she wouldn't be staunchly in favour of this ruling.

Whilst I didn't ask her this part of the question, I'm assuming she's in favour of responsibility to protect oneself in and around the act of sex away from abortion.

Does LGBTQ+ mean lesbian in this instance?

 

[Bigga]

Does LGBTQ+ mean lesbian in this instance?

It doesn't matter to you or anyone else.

That's her community and some of whom I've met.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

Good that you can both speak freely and that she has her own opinions, not following Der Party line like so many on here. They don't seem to know what happens at conception let alone at a late abortion. It's gruesome.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

It doesn't matter to you or anyone else.

That's her community and some of whom I've met.

Well it's just one view but thanks for sharing.

But if you don't have contact with sperm I can see why a woman might not think it as a big a problem.

But it is a bit of a false premise though because the people who just got abortion banned aren't pro-contraception.

So it's just a hypothetical and not relevant to USA.

 

[Bigga]

Well it's just one view but thanks for sharing.

But if you don't have contact with sperm I can see why a woman might not think it as a big a problem.

But it is a bit of a false premise though because the people who just got abortion banned aren't pro-contraception.

So it's just a hypothetical and not relevant to USA.

It's interesting you chose not to answer my open question.

Why? What was the problem with attributing responsibility with 20+ forms of contraception in and around sex?

 

[journolud]

I posed a question a couple of pages back, from a neutral position, an open question to ask whether this new ruling would enforce personal responsibility when it comes to sex, outside the usual caveats.

Not one person had the courage to answer it because it put a dent in their reasoning about abortion being an everyday use as a contraceptive because no other form was used. As far as I know there are 20+ ways to prevent pregnancy in the US.

I found the side step of the question very interesting and that's me in favour of a woman's autonomy over her own body.

I saw your post and took it as a genuine attempt to broaden the discussion and it has made me think. I don’t have a full answer but thoughts i do have are that contraceptives can fail, women are often pressured not to use them and that human passion being what it is then sadly people get themselves into positions they wouldn’t anticipate. Also, and I’m thinking as i go along, relationships fail, men run a mile from an unwanted pregnancy, in short I don’t think it’s as simple as women in backward American states will now have to be more responsible.

I also think it’s disingenuous to suggest abortion is a form of contraception and I don’t think you put a dent in anyone’s argument in that respect because I don’t think anyone has made it.

I don’t know for sure because I don’t know how many people have you on ignore these days and rather than sidestepping your post just haven’t seen it.

What everyone did see and responded to was the deliberately inflammatory post from Bonzo and truth be told he rather than you should be on everyone’s ignore list. I don’t believe he is genuinely interested in debate or discussion, he is the type of **** who pretends to be a vicar and in reality brings nothing to the forum.

You are a contentious but thought provoking poster, nothing to do with me but I genuinely find it sad that you find yourself allied with that ****.