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bluethrunthru said:
Republicans calling them Biden's FBI and the Far Left FBI and calling for a Congressional Investigation into the goings on at Mar-a-Lago............... I suspect that means the FBI have got the motherlode from their raid
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FBI is currently headed up by a trump appointee.

I suspect this is stuff around the records act which is a minor crime but enough to get him barred from running again. Technically he could get jail tome but it would seem harsh for records alone.

But it's also linked to the Jan 6th/fake electors stuff as no doubt the stuff he was trying to hide was related to that or other crimes.

There is also the tax fraud stuff that hangs over trump so that's another angle.

So many things.
 
Gaudion M said:
FBI is currently headed up by a trump appointee.

I suspect this is stuff around the records act which is a minor crime but enough to get him barred from running again. Technically he could get jail tome but it would seem harsh for records alone.

But it's also linked to the Jan 6th/fake electors stuff as no doubt the stuff he was trying to hide was related to that or other crimes.

There is also the tax fraud stuff that hangs over trump so that's another angle.

So many things.
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They have known he's had the stolen records since he left office in January 2021.

It doesn't take 18 months to get around to picking them up.

I think they aren't involved at all or it was a pretext to get inside and get what they wanted.
 
Gaudion M said:
FBI is currently headed up by a trump appointee.

I suspect this is stuff around the records act which is a minor crime but enough to get him barred from running again. Technically he could get jail tome but it would seem harsh for records alone.

But it's also linked to the Jan 6th/fake electors stuff as no doubt the stuff he was trying to hide was related to that or other crimes.

There is also the tax fraud stuff that hangs over trump so that's another angle.

So many things.
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So many things evidence of which may be in that safe....... I can imagine Trump needing to have it all down on paper and putting in a safe - probably a Trump Safe from 1999 ( if such a thing exists lol ) which had all the integrity of an ice cream wrapper
 
I suspect the raid will have nothing do with the Jan 6 committee. It'll be he's been asked nicely to return classified information to the national archive and he's refused so they've had to send in the big boys to get what they need. The raid was times 91 days before the mid terms giving the authorities breathing space from being accused of acting politically.

If they happen to find something that helps them nail the **** it will be considered a bonus.
 
Bigga said:
As per usual, the nutless wonder/s on here neglect to explain what's in (or out) of the 'I.R.A.' bill.

I can't be arsed going through it, so I'll let Doel do it again...

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They've made up their minds. Blinkered from the real issues that will give the US a sharp kick in the goolies shortly.

The neo-liberal agenda is collapsing and the mad bastards of this world are going to sweep it up.
 
mat said:
I suspect the raid will have nothing do with the Jan 6 committee. It'll be he's been asked nicely to return classified information to the national archive and he's refused so they've had to send in the big boys to get what they need. The raid was times 91 days before the mid terms giving the authorities breathing space from being accused of acting politically.

If they happen to find something that helps them nail the **** it will be considered a bonus.
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exactly - just a small matter of document theft - nothing to see here - move on please......
 
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mat said:
I suspect the raid will have nothing do with the Jan 6 committee. It'll be he's been asked nicely to return classified information to the national archive and he's refused so they've had to send in the big boys to get what they need. The raid was times 91 days before the mid terms giving the authorities breathing space from being accused of acting politically.

If they happen to find something that helps them nail the **** it will be considered a bonus.
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Ahh yes, we all remember fondly how the FBI raided the Clintons' homes after it was found that the lovely Hillary had kept secret gov files on her personal server.

Those were the days of consistency...?
 
Bigga said:
Ahh yes, we all remember fondly how the FBI raided the Clintons' homes after it was found that the lovely Hillary had kept secret gov files on her personal server.

Those were the days of consistency...?
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Bigga said:
As per usual, the nutless wonder/s on here neglect to explain what's in (or out) of the 'I.R.A.' bill.

I can't be arsed going through it, so I'll let Doel do it again...

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It was good of you to post a concise explanation of the bill, even though your motive for posting it appeared to be just to take an opportunity to throw some gratuitous insults to the whole forum who, if interested, had already read up on the contents of the bill on one of any number of media outlets. Maybe if you actually wanted to discuss the contents of it - for example whether an incremental bill was worth having or how Manchin and Sinema hijacked it for their own ends - maybe you should express your own opinions. But we all know that you're not interested in a proper discussion with "nutless wonders" or "neolibs" which are the labels you apply to anyone who isn't you. I really have no idea why you bother with this forum - it's clearly not for you.
 
Bigga said:
Ahh yes, we all remember fondly how the FBI raided the Clintons' homes after it was found that the lovely Hillary had kept secret gov files on her personal server.

Those were the days of consistency...?
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Yes. Clinton was investigated over them. Twice if I recall.

The Trump raid was about retrieving physical documents rather than electronic. If Trump hadn’t taken them or simply returned them, then there would have been no grounds for the raid.
 
BobKowalski said:
Yes. Clinton was investigated over them. Twice if I recall.

The Trump raid was about retrieving physical documents rather than electronic. If Trump hadn’t taken them or simply returned them, then there would have been no grounds for the raid.
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Everything they say they want on Clinton has been done and got no where.
 
west didsblue said:
It was good of you to post a concise explanation of the bill, even though your motive for posting it appeared to be just to take an opportunity to throw some gratuitous insults to the whole forum who, if interested, had already read up on the contents of the bill on one of any number of media outlets. Maybe if you actually wanted to discuss the contents of it - for example whether an incremental bill was worth having or how Manchin and Sinema hijacked it for their own ends - maybe you should express your own opinions. But we all know that you're not interested in a proper discussion with "nutless wonders" or "neolibs" which are the labels you apply to anyone who isn't you. I really have no idea why you bother with this forum - it's clearly not for you.
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I've expressed my views on incrementalism a hundred times. You lot care not and express that it's a necessary evil.

Bollocks.

Everybody and their dog knew why Manchin and Sinema signed on as they had something in return.

I despair at the happy clappers cheering on Dems without revealing the whole picture. If that was done, I'd say 'fair play' and offer nothing else.

This, patently, does not happen on this thread.
 
BobKowalski said:
Yes. Clinton was investigated over them. Twice if I recall.

The Trump raid was about retrieving physical documents rather than electronic. If Trump hadn’t taken them or simply returned them, then there would have been no grounds for the raid.
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I can't quite believe what I've just read.

You're saying that it's fine to keep gov secrets electronically.

Wow...
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
No where - except that the unfounded allegations may have cost her the Presidency, abetted by a frankly clueless Comey. Reputation damage is a primary goal of these sorts of allegations.
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Agree - not saying the Clinton / Biden bashing doesnt work for them. Just that there is zero risk that any valid investigation get s any traction.

I say valid as the GOP dont hide the fact they will happily take any old BS and hold it up as 'evidence'. See Mike Lindell. How far away are we from a congresional hearing giving credibility to some whacko like that?
 
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