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TinFoilHat said:
If they stepped in he'd run as an independent and the GOP would be wiped out as others in both legislatures would the Trump Patriots Party or whatever name he'd give it that would include his surname and sound good to his cult.
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That might be difficult and the timing of any such move would be fraught with legal challenges. There is also the difficulty and question of whether ‘sore loser laws’ in some states could keep him off the ballot as an independent if he has already stood for the Republicans in their primary.
 
I guess that Trump and Keri Lake were right after all... LOL.
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Gabriel said:
There’s nothing in the Constitution to prevent him standing if convicted and, presumably, even if incarcerated; Eugene V. Debs ran for the presidency in 1920 from Atlanta Federal Penitentiary and received a tad over 3% of the vote. Even if convicted beforehand, Trump would likely appeal and could be back in the White House before that appeal is heard, at which point he could appoint a new Attorney General and make any charges disappear. Fascinating times.
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The reason there's nothing in the Constitution is that the founding fathers couldn't conceive that a former POTUS or a presidential candidate would commit a series of felonies.

Bail pending an appeal of a felony conviction is discretionary and decided by the judge. Fascinating times indeed.
 
TinFoilHat said:
Wow....

Certainly showing he's not continuing pelosi legacy with that decision.
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To be honest the Dem leader tends to always back incumbents so technically not a hard shift but still significant that the Dems are ignoring AIPAC to do it. Eventually the Democrats will have to butt heads with a lobby group that actively attacks and funds the opposition.
 
AliBobbyJ said:
"The USA has never been a racist country."
Nikki Haley told us so today. Thank goodness for that.
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And this encapsulates why it's impossible for me to vote for any Republican presidential nominee.

Even the most sane of such candidates, espouse non-starter positions and/or fails to advance critically important objectives, such as:
* Denying that climate-change is the direct result of human activity, specifically, the massive increase in
CO2emissions
* Failing to support election integrity and in particular that there was no impactful voter fraud in the 2020 election
* Milquetoast former Republican leaders - failing to call out Trump for the fascist he is. Bush in particular.
 
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Some interesting details out today on the state of funding in the GOP.

Campaign spending on Iowa, including pacs:
Trump 18m
Ron 35m
Hayley 37m

Now that's a lot of anti Trump money. Is it because Trump didn't need to spend? Or does he hate spending and wouldn't do it anyway.
 
Gareth Barry Conlon said:
Some interesting details out today on the state of funding in the GOP.

Campaign spending on Iowa, including pacs:
Trump 18m
Ron 35m
Hayley 37m

Now that's a lot of anti Trump money. Is it because Trump didn't need to spend? Or does he hate spending and wouldn't do it anyway.
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I think it’s the incumbency advantage he has mixed in with the charisma he has within the party.
 
Gabriel said:
There’s nothing in the Constitution to prevent him standing if convicted and, presumably, even if incarcerated; Eugene V. Debs ran for the presidency in 1920 from Atlanta Federal Penitentiary and received a tad over 3% of the vote. Even if convicted beforehand, Trump would likely appeal and could be back in the White House before that appeal is heard, at which point he could appoint a new Attorney General and make any charges disappear. Fascinating times.
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Banana Republic if that happens.
 
I saw it reported that his filing to SCOTUS has the "President is not an Officer" claim, according to the NYT.

The brief’s primary argument was that Section 3 did not apply to Mr. Trump because the president was not among the officials covered by the provision. “The president is not an ‘officer of the United States’ as that term is used in the Constitution,” the brief said.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I saw it reported that his filing to SCOTUS has the "President is not an Officer" claim, according to the NYT.

The brief’s primary argument was that Section 3 did not apply to Mr. Trump because the president was not among the officials covered by the provision. “The president is not an ‘officer of the United States’ as that term is used in the Constitution,” the brief said.
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Doesn't the term "Commander in Chief" make the President an officer?
 
In the event that Trump wins which is looking more likely by the day, could he alter the rules to keep himself in office after 2028 ie a third term ?
 
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