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fulabeer said:
I think the best thing for the Dems to do when back in power is to leave Republicans alone and deal with the mess.
They should let those who have committed illegal acts sneak away and become invisible.

Only then should the full force of the law take its place. To do it straight away would lead to chaos.
The Republicans would be ready for it and it would end up in a political bloodbath.
No, the Dems should take their time, stay out of it and let the justice department deal with them one by one...
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Sounds like the sensible plan.

That way they cannot be accused of doing what Trump is doing. Punishing enemies etc...
 
Salford_Blue said:
Apologies for repeating myself, but it looks highly likely that they are holding back his health issues.

My question is, if or when the Dems retake the Presidency and they can show from these documents that he had dementia when making all his pardons and executive orders, then does that potentially make any decision made, void?

Including pardons for those who are likely expecting a pardon for doing his work?

Such as Hegseth, Noem, etc?
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They'll keep him going long enough to ensure that everyone who needs a pardon gets one, then 25th him out of office and put Peter Thiel J D Vance in the Oval Office.
 
1. Trump may declare war on Venezuela to distract from the Epstein files. Really?
2. Despite reaching a deal with the Democratic Party leadership on healthcare subsidies, the speaker says no legislation is planned. 17 million citizens will lose their healthcare insurance.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
 
Mainstream media has been reporting that Trump is losing his grip on the Republican party - so much so that some outlets have labeled him a lame duck, prior to the midterm elections.

Nowadays, I take all such reporting with a huge grain of salt - because media outlets must make money - and are thus biased, at least unconsciously in their coverage. They - at the very least - do not cover stories unfavorable to their constituencies - and frequently exaggerate outcomes in favor of their audience's desires.

That said... numerous recent events indicate that Trump's heretofore ironclad grip on the Republican party is at least loosening.

To wit...
Some MAGA politicians are either in outright revolt against Trump (e.g., MTG) or are resigning from office;
Republicans in "purple" districts went against Trump and Mike Johnson and voted for an extension to the ACA;
Trump has been forced to back down on his efforts to prevent disclosure of the Epstein files (I suspect that he'll continue in this vein claiming that ongoing "investigations" preclude disclosure of all files);
MAGA is skeptical of Trump's undeclared war against Venezuela;
And other such indications exist too which I can't recollect ATM but I'll bet that you can.

This brings a lot of hope - for me - in the possibility that Democracy will prevail in 2026. For 100% sure Trump is going to do whatever he can to steal the midterm elections by any means necessary - but recent events bring hope - that officials, both Republican and Democrat - will do the right thing in 2026 - and that fair and free elections will occur. And if in fact elections are fair and free in 2026 - there's no way in hell that Republicans retain control of the House - and it's even possible that they'll lose the Senate too.
 
The Democrats have succeeded in getting the required number of votes to pass a discharge petition to force a vote on the ACA subsidies. So Maga Mike has shut the house for a Christmas vacation, taking his bat and ball home.
While at home he must be careful not to tune in to a risqué channel as his son monitors his dad’s internet use. Weird or what?
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Mainstream media has been reporting that Trump is losing his grip on the Republican party - so much so that some outlets have labeled him a lame duck, prior to the midterm elections.

Nowadays, I take all such reporting with a huge grain of salt - because media outlets must make money - and are thus biased, at least unconsciously in their coverage. They - at the very least - do not cover stories unfavorable to their constituencies - and frequently exaggerate outcomes in favor of their audience's desires.

That said... numerous recent events indicate that Trump's heretofore ironclad grip on the Republican party is at least loosening.

To wit...
Some MAGA politicians are either in outright revolt against Trump (e.g., MTG) or are resigning from office;
Republicans in "purple" districts went against Trump and Mike Johnson and voted for an extension to the ACA;
Trump has been forced to back down on his efforts to prevent disclosure of the Epstein files (I suspect that he'll continue in this vein claiming that ongoing "investigations" preclude disclosure of all files);
MAGA is skeptical of Trump's undeclared war against Venezuela;
And other such indications exist too which I can't recollect ATM but I'll bet that you can.

This brings a lot of hope - for me - in the possibility that Democracy will prevail in 2026. For 100% sure Trump is going to do whatever he can to steal the midterm elections by any means necessary - but recent events bring hope - that officials, both Republican and Democrat - will do the right thing in 2026 - and that fair and free elections will occur. And if in fact elections are fair and free in 2026 - there's no way in hell that Republicans retain control of the House - and it's even possible that they'll lose the Senate too.
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I think he essentially is a lame duck at this point. The November elections were a disaster for the GOP and anyone in a remotely competitive district needs to keep their distance, so with such thin majorities I don't see how they can get anything other than bipartisan legislation through Congress.

I'm sure he'll continue to issue unhinged executive orders for the duration and his cabinet will do what they can to change administrative policy, but his ability to act has been and will continue to be constricted.
 
mosssideblue said:
For a self confessed US politics numpty, can someone explain what losing the midterms actually means
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Congress and Senate elections generally take place half way between President elections.
So midterms, is the middle of the presidents term, and about 50% of the possible seats will be up for grabs.
So 'losing' would be when a large majority of the contested seats go to nonRepublicans.

Edit : 1/3 not 50% as pointed out
 
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mosssideblue said:
For a self confessed US politics numpty, can someone explain what losing the midterms actually means
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Currently Trump has a very slim majority in the House of Representatives, and a slightly more comfortable but small majority in the Senate.

In November, all of the House seats are re-elected, and 1/3 of the Senate (33 of the 100, plus filling the seats that Rubio and Vance held).

If he loses a majority in one or both, it means Congress might obstruct what is currently being managed through, and can presumably start investigating things.

There's also a load of state governor elections.
 
JASR said:
Congress and Senate elections generally take place half way between President elections.
So midterms, is the middle of the presidents term, and about 50% of the possible seats will be up for grabs.
So 'losing' would be when a large majority of the contested seats go to nonRepublicans.
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But's what's to stop him just sitting in his office signing bills on whatever he fancies?

Does the above still have to go though the houses?
 
KS55 said:
The Democrats have succeeded in getting the required number of votes to pass a discharge petition to force a vote on the ACA subsidies. So Maga Mike has shut the house for a Christmas vacation, taking his bat and ball home.
While at home he must be careful not to tune in to a risqué channel as his son monitors his dad’s internet use. Weird or what?
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He's got some skeletons in the closet this guy (intentional use of the word closet). A real weird fish.

ACA subsidies are the lifeline of many a republican voter, a lot of them in marginal and potential swing states. A lot of them are going to mightily pissed off come January. Republicans are definitely playing with fire on this one.
 
WT86 said:
I think he essentially is a lame duck at this point. The November elections were a disaster for the GOP and anyone in a remotely competitive district needs to keep their distance, so with such thin majorities I don't see how they can get anything other than bipartisan legislation through Congress.

I'm sure he'll continue to issue unhinged executive orders for the duration and his cabinet will do what they can to change administrative policy, but his ability to act has been and will continue to be constricted.
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Unfortunately he does have the Supreme Court in his back pocket.
 
I think the reason he was so angry at his speech was he knows he’s losing everything and once it starts I think it will snowball quickly, hopefully gives him a coronary as well.
 
JASR said:
Congress and Senate elections generally take place half way between President elections.
So midterms, is the middle of the presidents term, and about 50% of the possible seats will be up for grabs.
So 'losing' would be when a large majority of the contested seats go to nonRepublicans.

Edit : 1/3 not 50% as pointed out
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88% of seats?

1/3 of 100 Senate seats and all 435 in Congress.
 
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