US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[moomba]

So you don't like democracy!

Not much at the moment.

 

[BlueHammer85]

One thing I will say about Trump was his campaign.

It was extortionary and for a man of his age, his stamina was incredible and his ability to judge and know his audience.

Dressing as a garbage collector was genius.

Not sure if serious - But either way it wouldn’t suprise me if so many Americans actually thought him posing in McDonald’s and driving a garbage truck was ‘genius’ and hilarious. Some seriously thick shits out there.

 

[jrb]

In some Democratic Party circles, the postmortem is already beginning despite a result not officially having been called yet.

One Democrat political operative in DC texts to say the party "needs to flush out elitist snobs in DC for a start".

Others have told me the same, albeit less bluntly - that while they praise the efforts of the campaign, they feel the party as a whole has an 'image problem' at a time when basic, everyday things like the cost of living are front of mind for most voters.

This Democrat despair brings to mind a conversation I had with a Republican at one Trump rally who said their candidate had completely "reimagined" the Republican party from its country club voter stereotype to appealing to working class families, while the Democrats had become the "party of Hollywood".

These are big generalisations, but ones Republicans publicly, and some Democrats privately, now share.

 

[Keeper!]

Not sure if serious - But either way it wouldn’t suprise me if so many Americans actually thought him posing in McDonald’s and driving a garbage truck was ‘genius’ and hilarious. Some seriously thick shits out there.

I hate the twat but he knows how to work his audience, IE the joe rogan podcast 45m views, incredible and it was to his people, meanwhile Harris was Infront of a few thousand with Beyonce and none gave a crap.

Trump hates Elon Musk with a passion but he used the little weasel, again genius move.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I don’t think some here understand the meaning of this.

If a convicted felon, serial liar, enemy-cozier, possible pedophile, nearing dementia, fascist-rhetoric spewing, insurrection-encouraging, near if not actual fascist racist can win the POPULAR vote in what is a factually reasonable economy . . . what in the world is the hope for any election in the future?

It’s not just Trump. It’s what it says about the electorate here. Harris was right when she said “We are never going back” . . . we are never going back to a rational, reasoned electorate with a moral center.

Ever.

Honestly, all it says to us after weeks of largely monochrome pro-kamala 'debate' on here is that empty vessels sometimes make the most noise and predictions of a close result or democrat win were well wide of the mark. It just shows there is a world of difference between persuading people and just surrounding ourselves with folk that share our own viewpoint. I thought it would be much closer than this btw - it looks like what I thought were hopelessly biased polls were spot on.

 

[JASR]

And the Supreme Court too. He can control and shape absolutely anything he wants. Those Senators and Congress folk will bend the knee like never before

Frightening times, But this is what the American folk have voted for.

He can get quite a lot rammed through at the start, but it will be the mid terms in 2026 that will determine whether he can get a big enough majority to start messing with the constitution - repealing maximum 2 terms being the minimum, they’ll be a lot more :-(

 

[KS55]

They need to do something as this **** and his Family will take some shifting.

Talking of his family, Melania was all over him at his victory speech after shunning him for months. The prospect of being First Lady again seems to have changed her mind.

 

[bluesteel]

I’m surprised anyone is surprised. I was shocked when I posted here on Saturday and people thought Harris would win, I found out people were even betting money on it.

It’s hard having a discussion on here because so many are blinkered to reality, it doesn’t help that this place is an echo chamber for blinkered people reading the same drivel, but I said my piece on the US politics thread and I’ll leave you all to it.

 

[halfcenturyup]

They weren't strong enough to put him behind bars.

Yes, sorry, needed a sarcasm emoji.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I don't think that's true, Starmer will still be in charge in 5 years, as long as he grows the economy. That's his challenge.

The economy is doing fine in America yet they’re still led to believe the Democrats have ruined the economy, jobs etc
Same will happen here, there will be bumps in the economy as always but the rhetoric will be ramped up that Labour have destroyed this country and they will be out - Farage and Reform will have a big big chance and it would not suprise me if Musk throws his weight in for that to happen. Everything is off the table now.