US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

Economy. Israel. Biden all had an impact.

She was battling against someone that slagged her off daily and people believed a lot of what he said.
Economy for sure. Biden choosing to run, causing Democrats not run a real primary didn't help. Immigration was a disaster.


But above all Kamala Harris was simply a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. She is as bad of a public speaker as I've ever seen on the national stage

They both called each other names. That was a wash. She simply couldn't connect with people who weren't already anti-Trump.
 
We had three threads on here that were all just basically outpourings of hate/rage/ fear about trump and anyone questioning Kamala's suitability, popularity or likelihood of winning was pretty much abused. Mostly by the characters that have now largely slunk off after weeks throwing their treasured opinions around like facts.
Overdramatised version of the truth where the poor silent Trumpists sat back cowed into silence against the mean pro Harris crowd.

All bollocks of course, and has nothing to do with my post that you replied to.

That was to simply to say that the accusations I've been seeing all day that Harris did or said nothing but criticise Trump weren't true.
 
I think it’s a few things -
1) The country is further right than many of us would like it to be and those people are voting on emotion not specific policy
2) The radicalization of young white men
3) Social media’s (and media in general) sowing of discontent and misery and Dem’s inability to understand or control it

And most importantly -
4) an electorate that is unhappy with the incumbent

Disagree with #1.. all you have to look at is the numbers..

Trump got less votes than 2020 (some of his base aged out but he found young men to carry his torch)

What really killed the dems is losing 15 million people that voted for Biden and had very high hopes for him. I mean 81 million vs 66 million.. that's the election right there.

Why did they not vote for her?
 
Trump would beat her aswell. One round of rallies and the whole Internet is calling her big Mike. They needed a sharp, intelligent charismatic young MALE to go up against him. The American population has proven twice they will elect literally the most unsuitable candidate possible over a woman.
gotta be Pete Buttigieg, innit?

Innit?
 
Economy for sure. Biden choosing to run, causing Democrats not run a real primary didn't help. Immigration was a disaster.


But above all Kamala Harris was simply a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. She is as bad of a public speaker as I've ever seen on the national stage

They both called each other names. That was a wash. She simply couldn't connect with people who weren't already anti-Trump.
I’m starting to think Harris might have been a worse choice than Clinton. As you say she’s a terrible public speaker and she’s robotic - she couldn’t connect with anyone, other than basically Hollywood.
 
I think it’s a few things -
1) The country is further right than many of us would like it to be and those people are voting on emotion not specific policy
2) The radicalization of young white men
3) Social media’s (and media in general) sowing of discontent and misery and Dem’s inability to understand or control it

And most importantly -
4) an electorate that is unhappy with the incumbent

Good post, I think it's as simple as a lot of people being massively disillusioned with the establishment and mainstream media and rightly or wrongly the media's demonisation of Trump has actually had the opposite effect. People think they are sticking it to the man by voting for Trump.

Also the last 4 years have been fucking shite for everybody and many people may just think I was better off when Donald was in the big house.
 
Overdramatised version of the truth where the poor silent Trumpists sat back cowed into silence against the mean pro Harris crowd.

All bollocks of course, and has nothing to do with my post that you replied to.

That was to simply to say that the accusations I've been seeing all day that Harris did or said nothing but criticise Trump weren't true.
He will be buzzing from this result because he doesn’t give a fuck about the realities of a Trump presidency, just being a smug **** on the internet.
 

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