Why is that? Just because I'm a normal Working class bloke, well actually i retired 6 years ago so now I'm classed as a rich person because i made sure i had a decent pension and bought our own house and struggled for years bringing our daughters up seeing them through University and helping them get a good start in life, with no help whatsoever from the Government, me and the missus have never claimed any benefits, I know a lot of people are in a bad situation through no fault of their own, but there are more that just work the system for all their working lives and when they retire and some of them live near me
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US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024
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If they were already at war why did Putin call it a special military operation? You don't half spout some bollockswhilst the world was pretty much in lockdown, crazy aye - also Russia was already at war with Ukraine.
gordondaviesmoustache
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What the fuck does what Putin calls something have to do with anything?If they were already at war why did Putin call it a special military operation? You don't half spout some bollocks
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Don't want to start off a conspiracy thread, but.... looking at pictures of Trump, I don't see any signs of scars or missing pieces of his ear.
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Not really a conspiracy. You're calling out what's in plain sight.Don't want to start off a conspiracy thread, but.... looking at pictures of Trump, I don't see any signs of scars or missing pieces of his ear.
His plastic surgeon must be a miracle worker.
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If they were already at war why did Putin call it a special military operation? You don't half spout some bollocks
Who cares what Putin calls it ?
In April 2014, Russian-backed militants seized towns in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region and proclaimed the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) as independent states, starting the Donbas war. Russia covertly supported the separatists with its own troops, tanks and artillery, preventing Ukraine from fully retaking the territory. In February 2015, Russia and Ukraine signed the Minsk II agreements, but they were never fully implemented in the years that followed. The Donbas war settled into a violent but static conflict between Ukraine and the Russian and separatist forces, with many brief ceasefires but no lasting peace.
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No, not that.Why is that? Just because I'm a normal Working class bloke, well actually i retired 6 years ago so now I'm classed as a rich person because i made sure i had a decent pension and bought our own house and struggled for years bringing our daughters up seeing them through University and helping them get a good start in life, with no help whatsoever from the Government, me and the missus have never claimed any benefits, I know a lot of people are in a bad situation through no fault of their own, but there are more that just work the system for all their working lives and when they retire and some of them live near me
He said it wasn't a war when they invaded the Ukraine and the Russian media were ordered not to refer to it as War, but as a special military operation, if they were all ready at war like Blue Hammer claims why say anything at all?What the fuck does what Putin calls something have to do with anything?
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Because he didn’t want the Russian people to appreciate they were already at war, albeit in a less heightened state, maybe?He said it wasn't a war when they invaded the Ukraine and the Russian media were ordered not to refer to it as War, but as a special military operation, if they were all ready at war like Blue Hammer claims why say anything at all?
And? if like you claim they were already at War why did Putin try to claim it was a Special Military operation? Surely it would just be part of the already ongoing WarWho cares what Putin calls it ?
In April 2014, Russian-backed militants seized towns in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region and proclaimed the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) as independent states, starting the Donbas war. Russia covertly supported the separatists with its own troops, tanks and artillery, preventing Ukraine from fully retaking the territory. In February 2015, Russia and Ukraine signed the Minsk II agreements, but they were never fully implemented in the years that followed. The Donbas war settled into a violent but static conflict between Ukraine and the Russian and separatist forces, with many brief ceasefires but no lasting peace.