FogBlueInSanFran
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Can you talk about this somewhere else please?
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US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024
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FogBlueInSanFran
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Not when you don’t criticiz(s)e the behavior there isn’t.There is a difference between a justification and an explanation.
gordondaviesmoustache
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The election is over and there are global consequences that will flow directly from that, so talk of Putin, Ukraine for example is on topic imo.Can you talk about this somewhere else please?
FogBlueInSanFran
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You’re right. Those aren’t really top of mind for me right now, but they should be here obviously.The election is over and there are global consequences that will flow directly from that, so talk of Putin, Ukraine for example is on topic imo.
There are hundreds of thousands of wife's and mothers in the extremely poor parts of Russia that now know different, and soon to be in for North Korea at a lesser extentBecause he didn’t want the Russian people to appreciate they were already at war, albeit in a less heightened state, maybe?
Scottyboi
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And? if like you claim they were already at War why did Putin try to claim it was a Special Military operation? Surely it would just be part of the already ongoing War
Because it went from russia fighting Ukraine with mercenary groups via proxy to them using their actual army and escalating into trying to take over all of Ukraine.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I get that mate, and this is obviously far more fundamental and existential for you, and it’s much easier for me to recalibrate my relationship with your country than for you.You’re right. Those aren’t really top of mind for me right now, but they should be here obviously.
gordondaviesmoustache
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It’s hard not to describe what went on militarily between 2014 and 2022 as a state of war, albeit limited in scope.Because it went from russia fighting Ukraine with mercenary groups via proxy to them using their actual army and escalating into trying to take over all of Ukraine.
Mr Kobayashi
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The election is over and there are global consequences that will flow directly from that, so talk of Putin, Ukraine for example is on topic imo.
Time for Ukraine to make the best deal they can before Trump serves them up on a platter?
gordondaviesmoustache
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That completely depends on the disposition of the rest of NATO.Time for Ukraine to make the best deal they can before Trump serves them up on a platter?
We have to operate in the real world, as much as it would pain me to see any deal (which won’t be worth a wank in all likelihood).