US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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And the lovely thing is that while you and I might disagree on certain aspects of POLICY we are 100 percent lockstep when it comes to the basic moral character we expect in people, especially leadership.

It doesn’t seem that difficult, does it?
You’d think! But, clearly there are enough men who admire such behavior!

Murica! Whaddyagonnado?!
 
I see I've already missed most of the debate on the GOP and Christianity. In fairness it seems to have been quite civil. I now understand where Dax is coming from though I cannot agree with him; I think as has already been stated by others my own biggest issue is the dissociation of Trump from the discussion. IMO he is entirely material to the discussion because the Republican party is, at this moment, entirely in thrall to him and so to countenance and support a leader who is seemingly at great odds with the Christian values the GOP claims to represent and uphold seems untenable to me. It's a statistical fact that many more Republican's identify as Christians than do Democrats but that in itself is irrelevant to the question of spirituality, especially if it transpires they are following a false prophet.

Belfry's explanation that some churches see him as a Cyrus the Great type figure is interesting as I hadn't heard that before. It seems implausible to me though as, to the extent that scholars can discern, Cyrus's approach to conquered people's was one of tolerance and allowing freedom of expression and retention of rights; which doesn't feel very Donald-esque, though I acknowledge Trump probably doesn't care one iota about what religion in the US looks like as long as it serves his purposes.

When we get onto the Christian position on abortion it's complex and always has been, Personally I'm not sure you can state a single position as definitive. Even the Catholic Church which has had a reputation for constancy on this subject, once you scratch the surface, has fiercely debated and at times changed it's position throughout church history with different Church Fathers having different views. Anyway that is definitely one for another thread, certainly if we are digging down into things like the Didache and Barnabas etc.
 
Been there, done that!!!

The guide man seems think he can cross his wands at the speed of light and we can stop a 400,000+ pound aircraft on that dime!! Plus, they all have their own cadence, whereas we control the cadence if the electronic docking systems!

I feel his pain! :-D
When standing in front of a B707 with a set of wands, the trick to getting the handling pilot to stop exactly where you want them to is to stop marshaling a few feet before (depending on the AC's speed) and then slowly raising your arms so that they know the stop is coming, then X marks the spot. On a dime, evey time.
 
Tee hee.

Everybody here who has done business with Donald Trump stand up.

Oh.

I suggest everyone else do some research on doing business with him. I would suggest around 92 percent or so who have would never vote for him. Including nearly all his cabinet.

But what do we know, eh?
Someone who knows how should ask sissy spacex's AI thingy, "Should I do business with Donald? "
 
When standing in front of a B707 with a set of wands, the trick to getting the handling pilot to stop exactly where you want them to is to stop marshaling a few feet before (depending on the AC's speed) and then slowly raising your arms so that they know the stop is coming, then X marks the spot. On a dime, evey time.
Absolutely! By the book! But, you wouldn’t believe some of “individual technique” I have seen.
 
A lot of us thought that was funny. Clueless moron who has spent no time on this thread in sapient idiocy shocker.

OT Had a good one with your employer today. Pulled into EWR gate, SBS off, we all stood up, and then the captain came on and said “I taxiied too far in to the gate, so they need to attach the tug and push us back a few feet if you all wouldn’t mind sitting for just a few minutes. Our apologies.” Then a three second pause. Then: “In my defense I stopped where they told me to!” The whole plane burst out laughing. It was great.
EWR? You in my neck of the woods.
 
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