Us v PSG

Barcon said:
supercrystal7 said:
Barcon said:
Anybody that would swap Aguero is deluded mate.
Messi is the only player that would even be considered.

Again you keep using swap. I wouldn't swap Aguero for anyone if I was a City fan after what he has done for you, his age and his level. Zlatan is 32, RVP is 30, Suarez is a not someone I want at my club etc but this does not mean I would not consider these players better than Aguero. I just would not swap him for them.

I used the word swap because you did mate.
I was responding to the deluded people that would chose Cavani or Zlatan over him.
I only used the word swap in the first place, because somebody else did. So do you really think Aguero is a better player than Zlatan?
Proelia said:
supercrystal7 said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
You really think Motta is better than Fernandinho?
T.Silva better than Kompany?
VDW better than Zabaleta?

I wouldn't swap Aguero for Cavani either.
I too rate Motta very highly, but have not seen enough of Fernandinho to make a fair judgement. I have only seen him really at City this year and I think he needs a bit more time to reach his full potential.

Thiaga Silva being better than Kompany is not even that debatable for many people. I agree.

VDW has more potential Zabaleta, but has not yet delivered. So I cannot say he is better than Zabaleta, but like with the Fernandinho Motta comparison it could really change by say April.

I always find it funny when someone says they would not swap player A for player B. Nearly always this means they consider the two players equal or player B the better one. I would not swap Jonny Williams with Rodwell, but currently at least I admit Rodwell is the better player.
VDW is usless and has been slated by psg and dutch fans on numerous occasions
Have you seen him or basing this purely on what you have heard? He has not had a great start to his PSG career, but clearly has a lot of potential and could reach it. As I said at the moment he is certainly not better than Zabaleta, but if he starts to play like he should do then that can change.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Barcon said:
supercrystal7 said:
Again you keep using swap. I wouldn't swap Aguero for anyone if I was a City fan after what he has done for you, his age and his level. Zlatan is 32, RVP is 30, Suarez is a not someone I want at my club etc but this does not mean I would not consider these players better than Aguero. I just would not swap him for them.

I used the word swap because you did mate.
I was responding to the deluded people that would chose Cavani or Zlatan over him.
I only used the word swap in the first place, because somebody else did. So do you really think Aguero is a better player than Zlatan?
Proelia said:
supercrystal7 said:
I too rate Motta very highly, but have not seen enough of Fernandinho to make a fair judgement. I have only seen him really at City this year and I think he needs a bit more time to reach his full potential.

Thiaga Silva being better than Kompany is not even that debatable for many people. I agree.

VDW has more potential Zabaleta, but has not yet delivered. So I cannot say he is better than Zabaleta, but like with the Fernandinho Motta comparison it could really change by say April.

I always find it funny when someone says they would not swap player A for player B. Nearly always this means they consider the two players equal or player B the better one. I would not swap Jonny Williams with Rodwell, but currently at least I admit Rodwell is the better player.
VDW is usless and has been slated by psg and dutch fans on numerous occasions
Have you seen him or basing this purely on what you have heard? He has not had a great start to his PSG career, but clearly has a lot of potential and could reach it. As I said at the moment he is certainly not better than Zabaleta, but if he starts to play like he should do then that can change.
Bit old to be just potential at this stage
 
Proelia said:
supercrystal7 said:
Barcon said:
I used the word swap because you did mate.
I was responding to the deluded people that would chose Cavani or Zlatan over him.
I only used the word swap in the first place, because somebody else did. So do you really think Aguero is a better player than Zlatan?
Proelia said:
VDW is usless and has been slated by psg and dutch fans on numerous occasions
Have you seen him or basing this purely on what you have heard? He has not had a great start to his PSG career, but clearly has a lot of potential and could reach it. As I said at the moment he is certainly not better than Zabaleta, but if he starts to play like he should do then that can change.
Bit old to be just potential at this stage
Potential in the sense he is struggling with his big move and has not performed to the accepted standard, but a large part of that is down to PSG playing the 4-2-4 formation for nearly a year, where got no cover and was double teamed.. With the current more balanced team selection I would not be surprised if Van der Wiel went on to have a very good season. Has had a year to adjust as well. Though I repeat he is not better than Zabaleta at the moment.
 
Of course I believe Aguero to be a better player than Zlatan. I think he is in the top three strikers in the world at this moment in time. Do I think he has done as much in his career as Zlatan? Of course not, but the same could be said for Eto and Kaka as well.
 
Barcon said:
Of course I believe Aguero to be a better player than Zlatan. I think he is in the top three strikers in the world at this moment in time. Do I think he has done as much in his career as Zlatan? Of course not, but the same could be said for Eto and Kaka as well.
Fair enough that's your opinion. I disagree, though I do agree that too often people tend to keep rating players based on what they have done in the past and not their current ability. However for me Zlatan in the last 3 years has been on slightly below Messi and Ronaldo. He almost singlehandedly made poor Milan/PSG teams title contenders/winners.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Barcon said:
Of course I believe Aguero to be a better player than Zlatan. I think he is in the top three strikers in the world at this moment in time. Do I think he has done as much in his career as Zlatan? Of course not, but the same could be said for Eto and Kaka as well.
Fair enough that's your opinion. I disagree, though I do agree that too often people tend to keep rating players based on what they have done in the past and not their current ability. However for me Zlatan in the last 3 years has been on slightly below Messi and Ronaldo. He almost singlehandedly made poor Milan/PSG teams title contenders/winners.

We'll have to disagree on that one mate. To be honest, if everybody had the same opinions on football, smalling, jones, wellbeck and cleverly would be unemployed.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Barcon said:
Of course I believe Aguero to be a better player than Zlatan. I think he is in the top three strikers in the world at this moment in time. Do I think he has done as much in his career as Zlatan? Of course not, but the same could be said for Eto and Kaka as well.
Fair enough that's your opinion. I disagree, though I do agree that too often people tend to keep rating players based on what they have done in the past and not their current ability. However for me Zlatan in the last 3 years has been on slightly below Messi and Ronaldo. He almost singlehandedly made poor Milan/PSG teams title contenders/winners.
in very poor leagues, doubt he could do it in the premier league<br /><br />-- Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:00 am --<br /><br />
ZLATANI said:
aguero93:20 said:
ZLATANI said:
Paris an enormous technical mastery in midfield, your team plays against that attack, our defense is much stronger than yours also. Yesterday we played the entire 10 second period against Olympiakos and we win anyway. If you come against us I think you'll eliminate. sorry for my english ...
olympiakos woooo, pity you can't even beat some of the shit teams in your joke of a league, you know the one that gives you a deluded sense of self importance? the one that hasn't produced a champions league winner in 20 years, that montpellier managed to win? shitting it now

Can you remember how many PL clubs in the quarterfinals of the Champions League last year ?
Can you tell me how many millions it took you to get out of the first round for the first time in LDC ?
Cardiff and Aston Villa beat Manchester City. Cardiff is not a team of Rugby? In our league there anyway Falcao Cavani Moutinho Thiago Motta Thiago Silva Ibrahimovic James Rodriguez Abidal Lavezzi Lucas Moura Pastore, I'm not sure there is much stars in Germany or Italy ...
no one doubts Italy is shit mate, after all that's where you signed all your players from isn't it? Germany? bvb or bayern would give you lot a serious lesson in how to play football.
 
aguero93:20 said:
supercrystal7 said:
Barcon said:
Of course I believe Aguero to be a better player than Zlatan. I think he is in the top three strikers in the world at this moment in time. Do I think he has done as much in his career as Zlatan? Of course not, but the same could be said for Eto and Kaka as well.
Fair enough that's your opinion. I disagree, though I do agree that too often people tend to keep rating players based on what they have done in the past and not their current ability. However for me Zlatan in the last 3 years has been on slightly below Messi and Ronaldo. He almost singlehandedly made poor Milan/PSG teams title contenders/winners.
in very poor leagues, doubt he could do it in the premier league

-- Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:00 am --

ZLATANI said:
aguero93:20 said:
olympiakos woooo, pity you can't even beat some of the shit teams in your joke of a league, you know the one that gives you a deluded sense of self importance? the one that hasn't produced a champions league winner in 20 years, that montpellier managed to win? shitting it now

Can you remember how many PL clubs in the quarterfinals of the Champions League last year ?
Can you tell me how many millions it took you to get out of the first round for the first time in LDC ?
Cardiff and Aston Villa beat Manchester City. Cardiff is not a team of Rugby? In our league there anyway Falcao Cavani Moutinho Thiago Motta Thiago Silva Ibrahimovic James Rodriguez Abidal Lavezzi Lucas Moura Pastore, I'm not sure there is much stars in Germany or Italy ...
no one doubts Italy is shit mate, after all that's where you signed all your players from isn't it? Germany? bvb or bayern would give you lot a serious lesson in how to play football.
Zlatan is arguably the best player in the world at the minute he would score for fun in the prem.
 
conormcfc said:
Hart > Sirigu
Zabaleta > Jallet
T.Silva > Kompany
Demichelis - Alex
Clichy > Digne
Yaya > Matuidi
Fernandinho > Motta
Nasri > Verratti
Silva > Lavezzi
Ibrahimovic > Negredo
Aguero - Cavani

7-2 in our favour with 2 ties. I think we're comfortably better man for man.

Still think they'd beat us over 2 legs if we went against their 3 man midfield with just Yaya and Fernandinho.

Hart < Sirigu
Zabaleta > Jallet
Kompany > Thiago SIlva
Nastasic < Alex
Clichy - Digne
Yaya > Matuidi
Fernandinho > Motta
Nasri > Verratti
SIlva > Lavezzi
Aguero > Cavani
Negredo < Ibrahimovic.

We're better.
 
supercrystal7 said:
Proelia said:
supercrystal7 said:
I only used the word swap in the first place, because somebody else did. So do you really think Aguero is a better player than Zlatan?
Have you seen him or basing this purely on what you have heard? He has not had a great start to his PSG career, but clearly has a lot of potential and could reach it. As I said at the moment he is certainly not better than Zabaleta, but if he starts to play like he should do then that can change.
Bit old to be just potential at this stage
Potential in the sense he is struggling with his big move and has not performed to the accepted standard, but a large part of that is down to PSG playing the 4-2-4 formation for nearly a year, where got no cover and was double teamed.. With the current more balanced team selection I would not be surprised if Van der Wiel went on to have a very good season. Has had a year to adjust as well. Though I repeat he is not better than Zabaleta at the moment.

a 4-2-4 ? haha you're a bright a one
 

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