VAR - 2020/21

[tweety]

Actually, even with VAR it can be feet. Humans can run at 40km hour. That is roughly 11m a second. Frame rates are 50 sec which means 22cm between frames. Two players moving in opposite directions can make 44cm between frames.
Bien Sport also said that it can be any one of 3 to 4 frames to pick from to show when the ball was actually kicked. In theory therefore it could be up to nearly a meter difference depending on speed of players and which frame is chosen.
If both sets of decisions are so open to subjectivity and margins of error then I would prefer human error and to get my celebrations back.

Well said. The technology is not there to measure down to a centimeter considering the speed of movement and camera frame rate, so why are we using it

 

[SilverFox2]

I see Ollie is complaining that decisions are now going against them. In other words they have been used to var decisions always going their way.

I think we all agree that var is normally used to benefit United rather than used fairly.
For once we are in agreement.

 

[jim tolmies perm]

They could start by using an independent set of people to operate VAR, instead of the useless twats that VAR was brought in to assist. The whole thing is in the hands of PGMOL who operate like a Masonic Lodge.

Said it before panel of 3 one ex ref and player plus one fan no links to any prem team

 

[Hart of the Matter]

VAR has certainly not done what it's advocates wanted.
Reduced diving - no. If anything it is worse
Highlighted corrupt officiating - no, aided it
Protected refs - no, ask Mike Dean

In addition, it has led to multiple changes in the laws of the game just to protect it.

A point some seem to overlook is that the beauty of old football was the rage of a bad decision but ALSO the delight of 'getting away with one'.

So now we have passion being killed from both the game on the field and for supporters off the field .

What a sterile world some people crave.

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

Just been watching Arsenal stuff Leeds with VAR assists. I think Saka is one to watch in the box. He had one claim overturned should have been booked, one given , thought the keeper got his foot to the ball first and then Leeds had a claim ruled out for an obvious block. Only watching highlights and nor bothering to rewind the action

 

[BlueHammer85]

VAR has certainly not done what it's advocates wanted.
Reduced diving - no. If anything it is worse
Highlighted corrupt officiating - no, aided it
Protected refs - no, ask Mike Dean

In addition, it has led to multiple changes in the laws of the game just to protect it.

A point some seem to overlook is that the beauty of old football was the rage of a bad decision by ALSO the delight of 'getting away with one'.

So now we have passion being killed from both the game on the field and for supporters off the field .

What a sterile world some people crave.

you know Man U would normally have been awarded a penalty for diving yesterday ? Without VAR.


no one craves a sterile world, they just want blatant incorrect decisions to be reduced and refs to get some help.

in the mean time, everyone is loving the footie and for a lot of folk it’s keeping them going, there will be packed stadiums and football is as popular as ever, so VAR killing the game? I don’t think so.

 

[Bluearmy]

Sorry but VAR or the officials sat doing that job failed to do it correctly so no, it didn't do its job yet again but rather gave the ref every opportunity to stick to his decision and give the rags a penalty.

Thankfully he didn't but he could have done and yet again a result would have been fixed because of its inaccurate use.

I've no issue with VAR so long as its used consistently and we can hear the conversations.

If no VAR this weekend then Liverpool dont concede their first against Leicester and possibly dont loose that game. And the rags get an undeserved penalty yesterday at West Brom and most likely win that game.


VAR is far from perfect (because of the corrupt officials) but this weekends games yet again gave clear examples of how those 2 sides are generally referee’d and without VAR the unchecked refs would have been able to improve both of the cartels results. Im 100% with you about it not bring used properly and should be totally transparent!! But its better than the old system where the refs were left to take the piss. Which they did regularly....

Thankfully VAR stopped that happening!

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Actually, even with VAR it can be feet. Humans can run at 40km hour. That is roughly 11m a second. Frame rates are 50 sec which means 22cm between frames. Two players moving in opposite directions can make 44cm between frames.
Bien Sport also said that it can be any one of 3 to 4 frames to pick from to show when the ball was actually kicked. In theory therefore it could be up to nearly a meter difference depending on speed of players and which frame is chosen.
If both sets of decisions are so open to subjectivity and margins of error then I would prefer human error and to get my celebrations back.

There should be none of these lines and looking at millimetres here or there.

It was supposed to be about “clear and obvious errors”!

If a player is clearly offside but the linesman has missed it, VAR should step in. If he’s “level” in the sense of the old usage, he’s onside and it’s a goal.

The biggest thing about VAR for me, isn’t about right and wrong decisions; it’s about not being able to celebrate goals. That’s the most special thing about the sport, gone forever.

Being in the stadium, you have no idea what’s going on with VAR. Fans who’ve paid to attend the game, who are what football is all about, are the last people to know what’s happening. Football has become a TV sport for armchair cunts.

And fans don’t always want things going their way. Remember the SheffUtd home game last season? SheffU had a goal disallowed for offside and the City fans were chanting “fuck VAR”!

 

[Hart of the Matter]

If no VAR this weekend then Liverpool dont concede their first against Leicester and possibly dont loose that game. And the rags get an undeserved penalty yesterday at West Brom and most likely win that game.


VAR is far from perfect (because of the corrupt officials) but this weekends games yet again gave clear examples of how those 2 sides are generally referee’d and without VAR the unchecked refs would have been able to improved both of the cartels results. Im 100% with you about it not bring used properly and should be totally transparent!! But its better than the old system where the refs were left to take the piss. Which they did regularly....

Thankfully VAR stopped that happening!

Don't be a dick. Without VAR Leicester would have had a penalty instead of a free kick.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Don't be a dick. Without VAR Leicester would have had a penalty instead of a free kick.

and that would have been ok ? A ref giving a penalty when it’s a free kick ?