VAR got that correct. It was outside (just) the area as per the picture shared on here a few pages back
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Of course he does. The volume of decisions he personally got along with the Rags pre VAR, why would they want that to change!!
You are moving the goal posts to suit your pro var stance. In real time it looked a penalty. To slow a replay down and view it from 3 different angles cannot mean it was a clear and obvious error by the referee.
The way it is going we may as well do away with the 3 officials and leave everything to a VAR man (who for convenience would be sat next to Tyler and Ratboy)
Both the penalty and Leicester first goal were incorrect decisions by the officials. VAR corrected both errors in 2 exceedingly tight calls.
VAR has its faults, mainly around the way the dodgy officials have implemented it. But it corrected both decisions.
If you have an issue with VAR due to both those incidents (which it got right), its due to your anti VAR agenda!!
And thats without VAR in the same weekend also disallowing (correctly) a penalty to United which would have turned a draw into a win for them.
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1. what childish posts have i started ? I think some are annoyed as I sway more in having VAR than completely scrapping it. I genuinely try to be as balanced as possible and state many times the negatives of VAR. My posting style is something I will try and work on, as I’m interested in the debate of VAR rather than looking for fights on here. Much better things to do.
however, if simply having the view of being more in VAR than scrapping it makes me a ‘cheerleader for VAR’ ‘responsible for killing the game’ and a ‘c*nt’ I will rightly tell them to fuck off.
2. ‘Peddled the lie that vast majority want it ‘
is it a lie ?
The YouGov Poll last year on VAR gave :
- 8 per cent want to keep using VAR as it is used now.
- 74 per cent say keep using VAR, but change the ways it is used.
- 15 per cent want to stop using VAR entirely
(I’m in the 74% camp)
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I'm in the 15% category.
I know in some respects it's correct, in that it's the absolute definition of the rules, but there are, for me, too many variables. The issue of frame rates by the camera mean it's impossible to accurately pinpoint everything at the precise moment the ball was struck. If the camera had been switched on a micro second earlier or later, the decision to rule a goal out for offside, when a finger or toe is deemed the deciding factor when an inch is the deciding measurement......no, it's bullshit.
It's a clinical analysis of play that destroys the emotion and soul of going to a game. We all spend a lot of money to be spectators, but for me it's a killer. We all remember the explosion of relief when Aguero scored that goal against QPR. Imagine what that moment would have been like if the screens had gone purple and we had to wait two minutes for a decision?
VAR is bollocks that destroys moments like that, and I wish it would just bugger off into the history books because it hasn't stopped the controversies.
I know in some respects it's correct, in that it's the absolute definition of the rules, but there are, for me, too many variables. The issue of frame rates by the camera mean it's impossible to accurately pinpoint everything at the precise moment the ball was struck. If the camera had been switched on a micro second earlier or later, the decision to rule a goal out for offside, when a finger or toe is deemed the deciding factor when an inch is the deciding measurement......no, it's bullshit.
It's a clinical analysis of play that destroys the emotion and soul of going to a game. We all spend a lot of money to be spectators, but for me it's a killer. We all remember the explosion of relief when Aguero scored that goal against QPR. Imagine what that moment would have been like if the screens had gone purple and we had to wait two minutes for a decision?
VAR is bollocks that destroys moments like that, and I wish it would just bugger off into the history books because it hasn't stopped the controversies.
You raise some very valid ponts, but lets not forget what was going on pre VAR.... the offsides decided by a camera frame are infinitely better than ones decided by corrupt officials... see below, the Liverpool ones in the 2019 run in could have cost us a league title. The Aubameyang one was nearly 3.5 meters onside and originally given off by those officials people want to give free reign too!!
I agree it needs to be less intrusive and also completely transparent....
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Again you are not 'listening'.
I thought VAR was there 'to correct clear and obvious errors'. If you have to view something for 2 minutes, in slow motion using 4 different camera angles then the decision cannot be a clear and obvious mistake.
VAR is not technically good enough to judge offsides by millimetres and it should not be used. Someone watching a TV monitor could see the obvious offside that the linesman missed (Milner by 2 yards) or the non penalty (Sterling when it clearly hit his back)
The very fact thst VAR has been going for 2 years and we are still posting in this thread shows it and the officials are not fit for purpose.
Cant put it any clearer. 3 errors last weekend (2 in Liverpool match/pen award in United match) it corrected them all. Is it perfect, no! Is it better than leaving it just to the officials, yes. Last weekend being clear evidence!
100% agree with you, the officials are not fit for purpose hence why we need it!
But they are the ones interpreting it so if they are not fit for purpose the whole thing is a farce.
I am not against someone/thing helping the referee but until pigmob are made accountable and improve .....
One thing I will say is that the TV companies, especially Sky are a disgrace. They put so much pressure on refs with constant replays, pointing out genuine errors, highlighting managers moans. The refs don't stand a chance.
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