VAR - 2020/21

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Erm Austria showing us how to use VAR.

Having slept I am stiil just as angry about VAR. The one and only reason for Foden not getting a penalty is VAR is bent. I cant think what else it could be.

Keeper clearly takes Foden standing foot, Clearly. All the time VAR is being use to try and influence games we will never hear what the refs are saying.

Moss " guys was that pen ?"
VAR " yea john clear pen"
Moss "should I give it ?"
VAR " er no john we have someone here who says no"
Moss " No ?! You did say No ?"
VAR " yea John No penalty something to do with brown envelopes"
Moss " oh right do you want me to go to the monitor to make it look like you are being honest ?".
VAR " nah dont bother we will say the keeper made contact with the ball, no one questions us "
Moss " no to monitor ?"
VAR " yea no to monitor "
Moss " thank fuck for that I'm knackered already without running to the monitor!"
VAR " no worries john you are doing great we have your back, remember give City nothing"
Moss" cheers guys the drinks are on me"
VAR " dont forget to keep getting in the way of Citys players and their passes, and try and book as many as you can"
Moss " no worries guys "

There is no way VAR conversation is going to be made public.

Ps I also thought their pen was soft like Salah went do really easy , laporte must have a really reall strong arm as I could pull of fully grown man over that easy . I thought Fodens was the clearest penalty I have seen all season. Different one player cheated and pretended to have been shot = penalty other player honest and trys to get up = non penalty. A fucking disgrace is VAR yet no one is allowed to question them . Because its bent

I can think of but one reason why the PL do not adopt that Aussie approach - they don't want the fans to hear what they are talking about and how they are arriving at a decision. Do we think that Moss would admit that he was 'blindsided'? Do we think that the VAR wallah will apply the laws of the game as written, having watched that incident from at least four angles? I just don't see how they could come up with the decision they did having seen what we and they saw.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I was a strong advocate for bringing VAR in. But since we have had it its clear that those using are not up to the job, and I think we can all agree they have had long enough to get it right. So it should now be consigned to the dustbin. All I would say is the Ref should be made to use the pitchside monitors for red cards and penalty decisions.

But those in Stockley park are a waste of time and VAR ruins the matchgoing experience.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I can think of but one reason why the PL do not adopt that Aussie approach - they don't want the fans to hear what they are talking about and how they are arriving at a decision. Do we think that Moss would admit that he was 'blindsided'? Do we think that the VAR wallah will apply the laws of the game as written, having watched that incident from at least four angles? I just don't see how they could come up with the decision they did having seen what we and they saw.

yes, as it would make them accountable, and clearly they dont want that.

 

[give it to gordon]

Ok I admit as an 60 yr old grumpy git I thought I understood football.
I didnt think they was enough of a foul for the Southampton penalty. Yet every pundit and commentator said it was.
There wasn't enough for a grown man to fall over.
Yet on Citys I thought it was a clear cut penalty. So did most pundits.
I dont understand what refs see that I dont.

The thing I dont understand is how everyone can agree the soft penalty. But not everyone can agree on a 100% late lunge on the players standing foot.

I hear people saying scrap VAR but without VAR the Southampton penalty is still given and Citys penalty isnt given. It does help stop the game being bent !

 

[Blue Mist]

Referees are disgrace
vAR staff is disgrace

The fact they are one and the same, all working in a closed shop, (pigmob) says it all. It is unprofessional in how it works and open to bias and worse corruption.

 

[Blue Mist]

A Google search reveals the Chinese owner of the Saints is selling up. In November last year he was using their good results to up the price. Since then the Rags thrashed them with help from VAR and they have slumped.
If the keeper had been sent off and a penalty given another thrashing could have happened.
What is the phrase, follow the money?

 

[danielwood5]

Ok I admit as an 60 yr old grumpy git I thought I understood football.
I didnt think they was enough of a foul for the Southampton penalty. Yet every pundit and commentator said it was.
There wasn't enough for a grown man to fall over.
Yet on Citys I thought it was a clear cut penalty. So did most pundits.
I dont understand what refs see that I dont.

The thing I dont understand is how everyone can agree the soft penalty. But not everyone can agree on a 100% late lunge on the players standing foot.

I hear people saying scrap VAR but without VAR the Southampton penalty is still given and Citys penalty isnt given. It does help stop the game being bent !

I had Tim Sherwood and SWP on the stream I had and they both agreed that we had a stonewall penalty denied and that the Southampton one shouldn't have been given as it was a dive.
They even spoke to Chris Foy and he agreed that the decisions were wrong and he said that he wouldn't have given the Saints one but would definitely have awarded ours.
He said that VAR probably didn't override the Saints penalty as Laporte did have a hand on his shoulder so the VAR guy couldn't definitively say it was an error amd so they went with the onfield decision. They then had a bit of a debate about why was that a penalty considering what goes on at pretty much every corner in a game and Foy said that's why he wouldn't have given it, there wasn't enough in it to give a penalty for that.
For the Foden penalty none of the pundits or Foy had any idea why it wasn't given in the first place and couldn't even come up with a theory as to why VAR hadn't intervened in that one.

 

[lust overlord]

I had Tim Sherwood and SWP on the stream I had and they both agreed that we had a stonewall penalty denied and that the Southampton one shouldn't have been given as it was a dive.
They even spoke to Chris Foy and he agreed that the decisions were wrong and he said that he wouldn't have given the Saints one but would definitely have awarded ours.
He said that VAR probably didn't override the Saints penalty as Laporte did have a hand on his shoulder so the VAR guy couldn't definitively say it was an error amd so they went with the onfield decision. They then had a bit of a debate about why was that a penalty considering what goes on at pretty much every corner in a game and Foy said that's why he wouldn't have given it, there wasn't enough in it to give a penalty for that.
For the Foden penalty none of the pundits or Foy had any idea why it wasn't given in the first place and couldn't even come up with a theory as to why VAR hadn't intervened in that one.

Its been said already a few times.
"Clear and obvious" is being used by var teams as a get out,as its obviously not obvious what constitutes "clear and obvious"
;)

 

[iceman]

yes, as it would make them accountable, and clearly they dont want that.

An answer in why it wasn't given should be demanded or ask ole when he gets the refs match to read

 

[wolviedinho]

I was a strong advocate for bringing VAR in. But since we have had it its clear that those using are not up to the job, and I think we can all agree they have had long enough to get it right. So it should now be consigned to the dustbin. All I would say is the Ref should be made to use the pitchside monitors for red cards and penalty decisions.

But those in Stockley park are a waste of time and VAR ruins the matchgoing experience.

I naively thought it would make the game more transparent and fair. Haha laughable thought process now.