Var debate 2019/20

[BlueHammer85]

No system is gonna be perfect, ever. VAR has a chance to improve but could take years.
Happy to see it scraped if that’s what fans want, but I do feel aggrieved at the thought we will go back to witnessing teams scoring miles offsides and players diving with no contact to win penalty’s and all the other decisions the ref will miss as the speed of the game and level of cheating by players is to quick nowadays.
Scrapping it seems defeatist to me but I get i’m in the minority - one thing I’m sure off , that first Harry Kane/Salah dive with the ref pointing to the spot will not go down well knowing a ref could have had some help to get the correct outcome.

 

[Blue Mist]

No system is gonna be perfect, ever. VAR has a chance to improve but could take years.
Happy to see it scraped if that’s what fans want, but I do feel aggrieved at the thought we will go back to witnessing teams scoring miles offsides and players diving with no contact to win penalty’s and all the other decisions the ref will miss as the speed of the game and level of cheating by players is to quick nowadays.
Scrapping it seems defeatist to me but I get i’m in the minority - one thing I’m sure off , that first Harry Kane/Salah dive with the ref pointing to the spot will not go down well knowing a ref could have had some help to get the correct outcome.

I fully understand what you are saying but unless my club start allowing me to bring my armchair, brew and dog (I need something to kick) to a match I my not be going much longer.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Let’s say Blackburn lose one nil at home to say spurs through a goal that shouldn’t have been allowed. They miss out on a money spinning replay and spurs don’t have the extra game to play. Had it have been at spurs game would need a replay etc. Different rules for different games in the same competition can’t be right.

City benefitted from Swansea not having VAR in the Cup last year. It was unfortunate for Swansea, but it wasn't loaded one way.

It was fair for the two matches that day because it could easily have been Swansea benefitting. Same with your example.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Is there even a debate anymore?

 

[kaz7]

With the linesman flagging,half of them are flagging at the wrong time

Only flag if there is CLEAR daylight between the players,if there isn't leave it for var

Not difficult really is it

 

[kaz7]

No system is gonna be perfect, ever. VAR has a chance to improve but could take years.
Happy to see it scraped if that’s what fans want, but I do feel aggrieved at the thought we will go back to witnessing teams scoring miles offsides and players diving with no contact to win penalty’s and all the other decisions the ref will miss as the speed of the game and level of cheating by players is to quick nowadays.
Scrapping it seems defeatist to me but I get i’m in the minority - one thing I’m sure off , that first Harry Kane/Salah dive with the ref pointing to the spot will not go down well knowing a ref could have had some help to get the correct outcome.

Why do you keep banging on about dives,there is so much more to it than that

 

[Mike Cledford]

It was Mike Dean. The most senior ref in the English game.

Oh. Thanks. I missed that it must have been the asst var whose name l saw. But l think my general point still applies and in Deans case senior does not mean the nest by a long chalk

 

[BlueHammer85]

Why do you keep banging on about dives,there is so much more to it than that

I think last season without VAR it was the biggest talking point, personally I hate my team being robbed by a player ‘clearly’ diving for a penalty, with VAR that won’t happen. That’s why I bang on about it.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

I think last season without VAR it was the biggest talking point, personally I hate my team being robbed by a player ‘clearly’ diving for a penalty, with VAR that won’t happen. That’s why I bang on about it.

So Mane didn't "dive" against Leicester or Spurs? And Rushforward didn't dive against Spurs? SOME players are still diving when they feel "contact" (ie - THEY STILL CHEAT) and SOME are still are being awarded penalties, even WITH VAR. VAR hasn't stopped them from cheating, nor has it stopped the refs from giving dodgy decisions whenever they want, all VAR has achieved is to make it even more obvious that they favour certain teams and has given the cheats another tool with which to cheat with, the situation we have now is even more frustrating than it was before.

 

[BlueHammer85]

So Mane didn't "dive" against Leicester or Spurs? And Rushforward didn't dive against Spurs? SOME players are still diving when they feel "contact" (ie - THEY STILL CHEAT) and SOME are still are being awarded penalties, even WITH VAR. VAR hasn't stopped them from cheating, nor has it stopped the refs from giving dodgy decisions whenever they want, all VAR has achieved is to make it even more obvious that they favour certain teams and has given the cheats another tool with which to cheat with, the situation we have now is even more frustrating than it was before.

I think it’s still happening but surely has reduced massively - I recall Salah winning loads of pens by diving last season - I don’t think he’s had one this season.
Players were going down with zero contact in previous seasons and still getting penaltys - that is a joke and something had to give.