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Var debate 2019/20
- Thread starter Chi-town blues
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Am I correct in thinking there’s a sensor in the ball that works with the goal line technology?Totally different. Goal line technology is easier as the line never moves and the ball which is moving has sensors throughout. That is totally different from someone/a computer deciding the exact moment a player kicks a ball and at the same time the exact moment some part of a players body is millimetres past the defender.
If so surely it’s not hard to measure exactly when the ball changes direction and speed (e.g. pass) to give exact timings of the freeze frame for offsides. It measures it perfectly when it’s a goal line clearance for example.
BertTrautmann'sParachute
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Eventually the VAR system will be everything. The refs will be completely dependent on it, so will the players and so will the fans. And the actual sheer enjoyment and emotional roller-coaster that is a game of football will disappear.Spot on. I often wondered how I could wean myself from football to the point where I could finally become an armchair fan (having no desire to be driving 3 hours to Manchester as I become elderly) and VAR is clearly the solution. Just what benefit is there now left for wasting 6 hours traveling, putting 250 miles on my car, spending £40 on fuel to stand in the stadium waiting to celebrate a goal while some tv production engineer scribbles his interpretation of straight lines on whatever frame of film he's decided to analyse. In short, it's bollocks.
That’s absolutely not true. The proof is the time it takes for a decision to be made. Goal line technology is instant because it is computer generated, offsides take time because there’s human interaction.It will be, they run offsides through software to accurately get the offsides correct.
This is the problem, there is definitive ways to computer generate offsides but it’s not in use for some “unknown” reason. We all know why.
cleavers
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That's what Walton said today, its technology that decides, and its very accurate.That’s absolutely not true.
The managers and captains were all shown it in action last week, and were very happy with it, today's took no real time at all, the lines we see are for clarity only, perhaps that is why we didn't have it last year, they were designing the technology to work it.
wagonman
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My God... I reckon there is a huge pile of steaming poo talked about VAR.
Loads of old "Stick in the Muds" who hate all change and want to live in the past.
It will settle down and we will end up with less injustices as a result...
Look at all the points we lost (and Scouse Pool gained) from wrong decisions last season.
I LOVE VAR.
(By the way... we just won 5-0 away from home and are top of the league... cheer up everyone).
JJ
Loads of old "Stick in the Muds" who hate all change and want to live in the past.
It will settle down and we will end up with less injustices as a result...
Look at all the points we lost (and Scouse Pool gained) from wrong decisions last season.
I LOVE VAR.
(By the way... we just won 5-0 away from home and are top of the league... cheer up everyone).
JJ
I was watching that? I am not sure I believe him. They could showcase it all on Football Focus, BBC, Sky etc to show us all exactly how they do it. I don't really trust the process. How do we know it's not a few analysts scrolling footage forward frame by frame, and putting a line across a distorted image. Maybe it's more sophisticated but they should open it up for review. That's how science works- peer review by your colleagues. This is all closed shop. "Trust us" and everyone in football thinks their club is done over all the time so that doesn't work.That's what Walton said today, its technology that decides, and its very accurate.
The managers and captains were all shown it in action last week, and were very happy with it, today's took no real time at all, the lines we see are for clarity only, perhaps that is why we didn't have it last year, they were designing the technology to work it.
Tommy_Catons_Perm
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It was mentioned a couple of times on radio 5 606 show tonight that Liverpool would have won the league last season if VAR was used. Seemed to be agreed and accepted without question. That's not the way I remember last season. More fake news to appease the scouse I think.
Didn't stop us under Pearce in 2007.Not expecting mass walkouts but gradually people will stop going, if you can’t celebrate a goal there is absolutely no point to the game.