Var debate 2019/20

[jimharri]

I see it’s the Nouveau riche being targetted

Eh? Not today. Chelsea have been on the wrong end of some var decisions.

 

[M12Blue]

Only going to work if the captain asks for a review.

 

[Mraitch]

If Atkinson awarded the goal, how was it a clear and obvious error and over ruled when Rodri being rugby tackled isn’t clear and obvious. What happened to this “high bar” to over rule the ref?

 

[SWP's back]

If Atkinson awarded the goal, how was it a clear and obvious error and over ruled when Rodri being rugby tackled isn’t clear and obvious. What happened to this “high bar” to over rule the ref?

I’m not sure how anyone can still ask this question two weeks into the season.

Every goal is checked, at that point, the clear and obvious threshold doesn’t need to be met. That’s been in the rules since before the season.

I’m not saying I agree with it, just explaining why the two are different.

 

[Blue Mist]

Do we have pitchside monitors ? I ask because posters keep saying we do and yet I cannot recall one incident this season where it has been used.

 

[SWP's back]

Eh? Not today. Chelsea have been on the wrong end of some var decisions.

That is what he was saying.

 

[SWP's back]

Do we have pitchside monitors ? I ask because posters keep saying we do and yet I cannot recall one incident this season where it has been used.

There are pitch side monitors yes but they’re trying to avoid using them hence the high bar/threshold on telling the ref to use it.

 

[jimharri]

That is what he was saying.

You are correct. I didn't read his post carefully enough.

C- Must try harder.

 

[franksinatra]

It is clear to overrule a referee, with VAR, and award a penalty, is way beyond the definition of most peoples understanding of ‘clear and obvious’ and only resulting in more confusion.

In some ways it almost an impossible task for the VAR referee to instead of making a factual decision, is it a pen or not, they have to decide if its ‘clear and obvious’ also which is can only lead to more inconsistency of interpretation. It really needs scrapping now until it is used correctly as its pointless having a technology which can come to the correct decision but, although being utilised, is not overruling the refs decision.

Chelsea had some shocking decisions against them today and although I would rarely want them to win I am glad VAR did not impact on another match result.

 

[SWP's back]

It is clear the penalty, with VAR, to overturn a decision is way beyond the definition of most peoples understanding of ‘clear and obvious’ and requires some guidance from the powers that be.

In some ways it almost an impossible task for the VAR referee to instead of making a factual decision, is it a pen or not, they have to decide if its ‘clear and obvious’ also which is can only lead to more inconsistency of interpretation. It really needs scrapping now until it is used correctly as its pointless having a technology which can come to the correct decision but, although being utilised, is not overruling the refs decision.

Chelsea had some shocking decisions against them today and although I would rarely want them to win I am glad VAR did not impact on another match result.

The way they’ve interpreted ‘clear and obvious’, I can’t think of many situations that could occur where they would over rule the ref if they continue (not) utilising it like they are at present.