Var debate 2019/20

I wonder if BlueHammer85 still thinks VAR is great.

I’ve given many pro’s and cons and have never said it’s great.

Spurs defender completely took out Aguero , without VAR the ref wouldn’t have gave a penalty

notice Lloris can come miles off his line to save a pen

no VAR brilliant aye ?
 
I’ve given many pro’s and cons and have never said it’s great.

Spurs defender completely took out Aguero , without VAR the ref wouldn’t have gave a penalty

notice Lloris can come miles off his line to save a pen

no VAR brilliant aye ?
The game is terrible with VAR - to the point that I've stopped watching other games - something I thought I would never do.
Good luck with season ticket renewals next season Premier League.
 
The game is terrible with VAR - to the point that I've stopped watching other games - something I thought I would never do.
Good luck with season ticket renewals next season Premier League.

that’s fair enough, will keep an eye on season ticket renewals next season.

VAR is far from great, but it always has a chance to improve - unlike no VAR and the refs making absurd decisions - like not giving you a penalty when Aguero was completely chopped down, scandalous we put up with refs getting them clear decisions wrong.
 
It’s sucking the joy out the game. I’m a season card holder and I am better staying a home and watching the game on tv if I want to know what var has seen. I don’t for the life of me know why the var pictures shown on sky or Bt (other broadcasters also available) are not shown in the stadium after var has reached its verdict.
 
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that’s fair enough, will keep an eye on season ticket renewals next season.

VAR is far from great, but it always has a chance to improve - unlike no VAR and the refs making absurd decisions - like not giving you a penalty when Aguero was completely chopped down, scandalous we put up with refs getting them clear decisions wrong.
So if VAR is the answer why wasn't Murray's handball spotted yesterday against your lot? I saw it, you saw it but the officials decided not to.
 
So if VAR is the answer why wasn't Murray's handball spotted yesterday against your lot? I saw it, you saw it but the officials decided not to.

VAR is far from perfect and will not get everything right - it’s the way forward and will always evolve to improve and get more decisions correct - not wanting to go back to refs making blind guesses and ridiculous decisions doesn’t mean I’m a massive fan of VAR.
 
VAR is far from perfect and will not get everything right - it’s the way forward and will always evolve to improve and get more decisions correct - not wanting to go back to refs making blind guesses and ridiculous decisions doesn’t mean I’m a massive fan of VAR.
But which version of football did you enjoy more;-
a) Ridiculous instant decisions given by the on field referee
b) Ridiculous tardy decisions given by a substandard official 120 miles away?
 
But which version of football did you enjoy more;-
a) Ridiculous instant decisions given by the on field referee
b) Ridiculous tardy decisions given by a substandard official 120 miles away?

Good question. Both them examples are equally infuriating.
One major criticism justified for me is the wait for the goal to be given - it’s taken a lot out the game and something I can’t get used too.
But.... so many times used to walk out the ground angry at a player being miles offside and scoring or a opposition player completely diving and the penalty given - it’s easy to forget how many of those clear wrong decisions were given. Refs needed help.

I’m not denying much more improvement is needed.
 
Good question. Both them examples are equally infuriating.
One major criticism justified for me is the wait for the goal to be given - it’s taken a lot out the game and something I can’t get used too.
But.... so many times used to walk out the ground angry at a player being miles offside and scoring or a opposition player completely diving and the penalty given - it’s easy to forget how many of those clear wrong decisions were given. Refs needed help.

I’m not denying much more improvement is needed.
We fell in love with the game in a), would you in b)?
It's become just another sport.
 
We fell in love with the game in a), would you in b)?
It's become just another sport.

despite West Ham being completely shite. Football is still the best and most entertaining sport imo. Apologies but that spurs city game was brilliant for the neutral, VAR hasn’t affected the entertainment.
 
despite West Ham being completely shite. Football is still the best and most entertaining sport imo. Apologies but that spurs city game was brilliant for the neutral, VAR hasn’t affected the entertainment.

As a neutral maybe, if that involves your team then it’s no longer the same sport we al loved
 
As a neutral maybe, if that involves your team then it’s no longer the same sport we al loved

but what would your reaction have been had the ref not given that penalty against Aguero ? It’s completely farcical - refs can not cope with the modern game. They need some form of help
 
but what would your reaction have been had the ref not given that penalty against Aguero ? It’s completely farcical - refs can not cope with the modern game. They need some form of help

It’s as many have said, including yourself, it’s the way it’s being used. It’s a joke Dean missed the penalty, it’s another joke that the game went on for nearly 3 more minutes until the penalty was given. Obviously they was wanting the ball to go out, if it’s a clear pen which it was then that decision should be done in seconds. Spurs could have scored in that play only for more controversy ruling it out to give us a pen. It’s being used horrendously, it shouldn’t be this bad.
 
It’s as many have said, including yourself, it’s the way it’s being used. It’s a joke Dean missed the penalty, it’s another joke that the game went on for nearly 3 more minutes until the penalty was given. Obviously they was wanting the ball to go out, if it’s a clear pen which it was then that decision should be done in seconds. Spurs could have scored in that play only for more controversy ruling it out to give us a pen. It’s being used horrendously, it shouldn’t be this bad.
If Spurs would have scored would I wouldn't have been shocked if the pen was strangely overlooked like at Anfield
 
It’s as many have said, including yourself, it’s the way it’s being used. It’s a joke Dean missed the penalty, it’s another joke that the game went on for nearly 3 more minutes until the penalty was given. Obviously they was wanting the ball to go out, if it’s a clear pen which it was then that decision should be done in seconds. Spurs could have scored in that play only for more controversy ruling it out to give us a pen. It’s being used horrendously, it shouldn’t be this bad.

agree. It has to become clearer and better. But the whole farcical few minutes was justified for me because VAR saw the penalty and the ref laughably thought the spurs defender won the ball.

what would have been a joke were without VAR, the ref doesn’t give a penalty and spurs go in the other end and score. Final decision. That is what happens without VAR.
 
I have a series of (probably stupid) questions.. hypothetically, when it played on for a few minutes, before our penalty was awarded, had we scored in those minutes, would VAR have been looked at for the incident? And if so, would the goal stand? Would the goal be overturned and then we'd have to score a penalty? What if it was red card scenario? Would the goal be allowed and then the opposing player be potentially sent off? Would the open play goal be allowed and a penalty awarded to make it 2-0?
 
Why have not seen a close up of the Lloris challenge? They can zoom in from anywhere and show if he got his ankle, but not surprisingly it wasnt shown, this happens on Citys big screen if its dubious, even Savage said it was a pen.
 

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